1911 Beta

by **Swiss** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:31 pm

ummmmmm

by **Rob** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:22 pm

Well I read your mom's Craigslist ad well enough mg AGHHH WHAT A BURN...

On my penis. After that night.

K.

by **Schmiggs** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:30 am

Sears wrote:+1 for hygiene

i lol'd in rl

by **SKiNnTo** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:29 am

How do you know the future?

by **seanality** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:43 am

k4b00m wrote:What has been seen, cannot be unseen.

I wish that statement wasn't true.

by **k4b00m** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:28 pm

What has been seen, cannot be unseen.

by **Sears** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:33 pm

+1 for hygiene

by **Ken** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:27 pm

Apparently they just posted a picture of him before the actual event that lead to his death happened.

::WARNING::
THIS IMAGE IS DISTURBING!

by **Ken** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:08 pm

Taken from the VMF website. This sure sucks.

It pains me to say guys, but at 11:30pm EST, April 26th, the one and only Charles "Kodiac" West has passed away.

It is yet unconfirmed as to why, but speculation points to a massive amount of boys fists in his asshole - rupturing his rectum - causing major internal bleeding.

In light of this recent scandal, we here at VMF ask that the community at large respect and honor our fallen brother.

by **toxinatoR** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:58 pm

kodiac is a fox

by **SKiNnTo** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:01 pm

I just did what someone on my "friends list" told me to do. Like the use of widdle as well~

by **mg_** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:42 pm

juliowinnfredo wrote:
mg_ wrote:
pappy_boyington wrote:If Kodiac was using an aimbot, why did he miss the guy at 1:26 right after killing the guy at 1:25?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJVTb_CFhxM

He clearly misses his second target. Does aimbot do that? Start watching at 1:20 and go to 1:28. Watch carefully. He misses his second target.

This is not aimbot.

TPG- Unban this man and apologize.

LOL I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. This stupidity rivals ronin's.
Somebody's a widdle angwy.

Reading definitely isn't something you do well.

by **Rob** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:44 pm

mg_ wrote:
pappy_boyington wrote:If Kodiac was using an aimbot, why did he miss the guy at 1:26 right after killing the guy at 1:25?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJVTb_CFhxM

He clearly misses his second target. Does aimbot do that? Start watching at 1:20 and go to 1:28. Watch carefully. He misses his second target.

This is not aimbot.

TPG- Unban this man and apologize.

LOL I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. This stupidity rivals ronin's.

Somebody's a widdle angwy.

by **Jb_** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:05 am

shh....its a secret

by **seanality** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:49 am

Jb_ wrote:All I know is my aimbot works the same way. I can usually get a couple kills but I always miss a few from just being terrible in general. Seems like this guy is dealing with the same issues. Oh and if I were 45 id probably cheat to compete with a bunch of kids in the internet, just sayin....

Do I hear a confession?

by **Jb_** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:25 am

All I know is my aimbot works the same way. I can usually get a couple kills but I always miss a few from just being terrible in general. Seems like this guy is dealing with the same issues. Oh and if I were 45 id probably cheat to compete with a bunch of kids in the internet, just sayin....

by **seanality** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:53 am

Wint0 wrote:He aims better than jared curt or jordan fenton with a pistol.... and thats sayin something AMIRIGHT?

I am not following.

by **Wint0** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:42 am

He aims better than jared curt or jordan fenton with a pistol.... and thats sayin something AMIRIGHT?

by **Sears** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:38 pm

Wow, best thread in a long time. Thanks pappy.

by **`NG** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:36 pm

Scott Smith, Ladies and Gentlemen.

by **t`RavE** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:32 pm

jigsawww wrote:
Aimbot only works when you stand still? Is that what you're telling me?
You can actually bind like mouse 4 to your aimbot key and aimbot whenever you want then get the rest of the kills legit. Just saying.

I trust this expert opinion.

by **jigsawww** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:28 pm

Aimbot only works when you stand still? Is that what you're telling me?

You can actually bind like mouse 4 to your aimbot key and aimbot whenever you want then get the rest of the kills legit. Just saying.

by **unpro** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:22 pm

and schmiggs rolls in.

by **Schmiggs** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:44 pm

Hey Pappy, you're a fucking idiot if you don't think this douche was fucking cheating. Unless you're the douche that was cheating. Stop trying to stick up for your boy. Even if he was just cheating for a scrim he deserves to be banned and deserves to have his league drop his ass. Fuck him and whoever sticks up for his ass.

by **likwid** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:54 pm

Kids still cheat at this garbage?

by **JaGGoNdd** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:53 pm

made an account on here just to tell you i love you eric hahaha

by **riveroyster** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:38 pm

lol that is pretty blatant

what a dork

by **mg_** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:16 pm

Once and for all - we'll settle the ultimate cheater league: WHO HARBORS THE BEST CHEATERS.

EAGLE DOD VERSUS TPG.

FIGHT.

by **mg_** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:14 pm

pappy_boyington wrote:If Kodiac was using an aimbot, why did he miss the guy at 1:26 right after killing the guy at 1:25?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJVTb_CFhxM

He clearly misses his second target. Does aimbot do that? Start watching at 1:20 and go to 1:28. Watch carefully. He misses his second target.

This is not aimbot.

TPG- Unban this man and apologize.

LOL I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. This stupidity rivals ronin's.

by **pappy_boyington** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:02 pm

Expunge wrote:sorry, i don't see his helmet above the railing until after he is dead

it looks like your friend cheated in this particular scrim

I think you are right that the head pops up after the shot, yet I don't see the head below the railing either. Additionally, The crosshairs are well below the railing and they never stop moving.

Approach this with an open mind. Let the evidence lead you.

Guy at 1:25 is in an obvious place. The first place I would look if I were an ally in apts. You can hear them coming. I would look there first too. Crosshair never stops moving, and I don't see it near the head. I think you are right that the head pops up after, but the fact is the crosshair is well below. And then he misses the second guy behind the wall, in the tougher spot. The crosshair NEVER touches the head of the second guy. NEVER.

Guy at 2:19 moves into the open. In a gun battle with another guy. Kodiac shoots him in the foot first. The foot (not quite the head there). HLTV doesn't show crosshairs at that point, but the BAR is clearly moving up as he shoots.

Guy at 2:31. Running in the wide open, not shooting to defend himself. Listen. You can hear the door open before he jumps to the window. So it makes sense that he looks there quickly.

Guy at 2:42. Comes through a door again. You can hear the guy coming. You hear the door open. He is really close. Point blank range.

Guy at 3:02. Amazing shot. But you can hear people to the left before Kodiac goes through the door. First place I would look is spawn ramp if I were looking left.

I've never used hacks, so I don't know exactly how an aimbot works, but I can tell you this. Machines operate on the principle of repetition. If he is using an aimbot why is it so inconsistent? How is Kodiac's play different than a man using a KAR, who must aim as best he can to get hits and sometimes he misses (or hits a foot)?

I think there is room for doubt. This is an HLTV demo. The server the scrim was on is in Atlanta, the HLTV in LA. The update rate of the HLTV was at 20, which is probably why the demo is a bit choppy at points. You have to count the pc of the person taking the demo as well.

And on top of that there are inconsistencies. He misses at 1:26. If aimbot is suppose to put crosshairs on the head it should do that. They never touch the guy at 1:26.

I don't understand how you can be so sure. If aimbot is that inconsistent a player with good aim should only play in a server without HLTV for their own safety...

by **Expunge** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:44 pm

sorry, i don't see his helmet above the railing until after he is dead

it looks like your friend cheated in this particular scrim

by **pappy_boyington** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:29 pm

Expunge wrote:looks to me like the crosshair is on the first guy's head as well

You can see his helmet above the railing, while the hits are below the railing. Watch it 5 times in a row with HD. Helmet above the railing, hits below the railing, crosshair below the railing.

by **Expunge** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:13 pm

looks to me like the crosshair is on the first guy's head as well

by **pappy_boyington** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:05 pm

ok, if aimbot only touches the head why are there body shots at 1:25?

Watch in 1080 HD. The guy at 1:25 is NOT shot in the head. You can see his head poking over the blood splatter. Clearly.

You can't have it both ways. If aimbot is on at 1:25 where he gets hits why does he miss the head?

by **unpro** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:00 pm

you do realize the hit boxes for heads in HL engine games tend to be slightly fucked up right? either way, strafing while shooting will fuck any aimbot. they dont compensate for recoil, they just put the crosshair on the head.

by **Expunge** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:00 pm

it doesn't touch his body cause it's on his head

by **pappy_boyington** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:58 pm

Expunge wrote:the crosshair is on the guy for every bullet, the recoil forces it up before it snaps back onto the guy. and yes he shoots and misses because he's strafing at the same time

Please watch the demo again. Watch it at 1080 HD from 1:20 to 1:28.

The crosshair goes from the first guy to the second guy, but NEVER is on his body. Ever.

Again. The crosshair NEVER touches the second man. Watch in 1080 HD and keep an open mind.

by **Expunge** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:54 pm

the crosshair is on the guy for every bullet, the recoil forces it up before it snaps back onto the guy. and yes he shoots and misses because he's strafing at the same time

by **pappy_boyington** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:43 pm

Expunge wrote:i'm telling you that when you are moving in dod, the bullets don't go exactly where the crosshair is

(and his crosshair happens to be directly on both targets)

Actually, if you watch the video in HD the crosshairs are above the right shoulder of the second guy. And he clearly shoots and misses.

by **Expunge** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:37 pm

i'm telling you that when you are moving in dod, the bullets don't go exactly where the crosshair is

(and his crosshair happens to be directly on both targets)

by **pappy_boyington** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:34 pm

Aimbot only works when you stand still? Is that what you're telling me?

by **Expunge** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:31 pm

pappy_boyington wrote:If Kodiac was using an aimbot, why did he miss the guy at 1:26 right after killing the guy at 1:25?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJVTb_CFhxM

He clearly misses his second target. Does aimbot do that? Start watching at 1:20 and go to 1:28. Watch carefully. He misses his second target.

This is not aimbot.

TPG- Unban this man and apologize.

SKiNnto- I humbly apologize. My post was very excessive and I was wrong to be so aggressive. Your post after mine shows you are a man of honor. Please forgive my anger.

A big round of thanks for trolling me Sears. I think you're a cool guy when you don't get upset.

because he's moving while he shoots.......have you ever played dod before?

by **pappy_boyington** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:25 pm

If Kodiac was using an aimbot, why did he miss the guy at 1:26 right after killing the guy at 1:25?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJVTb_CFhxM

He clearly misses his second target. Does aimbot do that? Start watching at 1:20 and go to 1:28. Watch carefully. He misses his second target.

This is not aimbot.

TPG- Unban this man and apologize.

SKiNnto- I humbly apologize. My post was very excessive and I was wrong to be so aggressive. Your post after mine shows you are a man of honor. Please forgive my anger.

A big round of thanks for trolling me Sears. I think you're a cool guy when you don't get upset.

by **defiance** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:41 am

seanality wrote:
Airnick15 wrote:Did he turn in first person demo?
My understanding is that the hltv demo came from a scrim not a match so kodiac wouldn't necessarily have a first person demo.

As for the 1911 community targeting kodiac...

The people have every right to flame him. He looks very blatant in my eyes. However, I know tpg is not cal but from what I remember back in cal you couldn't ban for hltv. If that is true I think we forgive and forget and unban this guy and let him and his team continue to play. I would imagin that from now on every team will dispute him so whatever, we can catch him that way. Atleast we know he won't be dumb enough to cheat again. I mean fuck look how obvious it was in even hltv demos. What I am saying is if he cheats in a match then ban his ass. We don't want to divide this already small community any further. There aren't many people still holding onto this dying community so let's not push them all away let's let them hang on. But, if they cheat in a match or another scrim, peace.

your memory is wrong, you could get banned from not only hltv but pubs as well. Saying forgive and forget because he won't cheat in matches is basically the green light for awful trolls to scrim cheat.

by **seanality** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:00 am

Airnick15 wrote:Did he turn in first person demo?

My understanding is that the hltv demo came from a scrim not a match so kodiac wouldn't necessarily have a first person demo.

As for the 1911 community targeting kodiac...

The people have every right to flame him. He looks very blatant in my eyes. However, I know tpg is not cal but from what I remember back in cal you couldn't ban for hltv. If that is true I think we forgive and forget and unban this guy and let him and his team continue to play. I would imagin that from now on every team will dispute him so whatever, we can catch him that way. Atleast we know he won't be dumb enough to cheat again. I mean fuck look how obvious it was in even hltv demos. What I am saying is if he cheats in a match then ban his ass. We don't want to divide this already small community any further. There aren't many people still holding onto this dying community so let's not push them all away let's let them hang on. But, if they cheat in a match or another scrim, peace.

by **Airnick15** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:39 am

Did he turn in first person demo?

by **`NG** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:36 am

Unbelievable.

This post makes me lose all respect for 1911 the way that demo made you lose all respect for Kodiac. Unacceptable.

I am dumbfounded that grown men like sKiNnTo and others I could mention are speaking with such vehemence and derision. You put up the man's picture? I see a couple names in this thread that have a past they too would wish forgotten.

sKiNnto- your behavior is beneath contempt. It's been a while since I witnessed a man wallow in such spite. It's practically sadism.

I wouldn't treat my worst enemy this poorly. It is your right to call out hackers. But not this way ... those of you who have taken this too far have no honor.

Don't put your picture in a place where it can be used if you don't want it shown. I don't see anything wrong with taking something out of very visible public domain and putting it somewhere else visible... unless you too are a sad 45 year old man that revels in a wwII video game like it means something. Then I could understand your frustration.

And "wallow in such spite"? Is your brain a jello mold? Welcome to the internet sir, you must be new here. He didn't even say anything that egregious. I think you need to review the concept of an internet forum before you post anything else and further your status as a complete fucking retard.

by **Schmiggs** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:07 am

that Eagle page needs some Mogga assaulting...

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