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by **acetamino** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:56 pm

it's hard to train your brain when there are random triggers. It's true the brain is not that well understood so when prescribing drugs they couple it with therapy to monitor how you are doing..basically an under the radar suicide watch.

by **pinecone** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:56 pm

Are you kidding me I've been a seal for like, 4 years now. My entire dod career has been in my spare time, when i'm not snapping peoples necks and all that.

GIVE ME A HOOHA. SEALS NIGGA.

No, but interesting thread, to say the least. Anxiety comes with stressful situations and fear of the unknown, and antidepressants & all that just add to the anxiety imo, but what do i know, I'M JUST A NAVY SEAL OVER HERE.

by **Ken** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:38 pm

If anyone knows a navy seal IRL, pay attention to their actions. Attempt to tap them on the opposite shoulder without them knowing, attempt to think what they are pondering. Its primarily training your brain in tune to the task at hand, but maintaining that focus is the hard part.

My father was a seal. Attempting to sneak up on him would be a stupid fucking idea. I've tried it once. The outcome wasn't good.

by **rymoz** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:02 pm

alex kirk wrote:
Schmiggs wrote:Alex, calm down bud, it's all in fun.

Anxiety is something effecting the brain which you can train yourself to deal with, which is why I said to man up and deal with it.
Not everyone can.

My sister had a diagnosis for anxiety for years. She tried medications and other therapies. But when she finally got fed up with it all and trained her brain to try to ignore those feelings, she hasn't had them. The human body and human brain are amazing things. If we could learn to control it more there's no telling what we would be capable of.
That's great that it worked for your sister, but that's anecdotal evidence which is not applicable to the general population of people with generalized anxiety disorder. It could very well imply that your sister's case was not as severe just as easily as it could imply that your sister is very strong-willed. It's kind of difficult to draw comparisons.

A large portion of those with some sort of GAD, not sure if it's a majority or not, will eventually graduate to more complex disorders like major depressive disorder. For those people, it's typically not as easy as simply ignoring those feelings.

by **k4b00m** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:59 pm

by **james-** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:41 pm

by **t`RavE** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:10 pm

by **kirk** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:47 pm

Schmiggs wrote:Alex, calm down bud, it's all in fun.

Anxiety is something effecting the brain which you can train yourself to deal with, which is why I said to man up and deal with it.

Not everyone can.

My sister had a diagnosis for anxiety for years. She tried medications and other therapies. But when she finally got fed up with it all and trained her brain to try to ignore those feelings, she hasn't had them. The human body and human brain are amazing things. If we could learn to control it more there's no telling what we would be capable of.

That's great that it worked for your sister, but that's anecdotal evidence which is not applicable to the general population of people with generalized anxiety disorder. It could very well imply that your sister's case was not as severe just as easily as it could imply that your sister is very strong-willed. It's kind of difficult to draw comparisons.

A large portion of those with some sort of GAD, not sure if it's a majority or not, will eventually graduate to more complex disorders like major depressive disorder. For those people, it's typically not as easy as simply ignoring those feelings.

by **Schmiggs** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:20 pm

Alex, calm down bud, it's all in fun.

Anxiety is something effecting the brain which you can train yourself to deal with, which is why I said to man up and deal with it.

My sister had a diagnosis for anxiety for years. She tried medications and other therapies. But when she finally got fed up with it all and trained her brain to try to ignore those feelings, she hasn't had them. The human body and human brain are amazing things. If we could learn to control it more there's no telling what we would be capable of.

by **kirk** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:41 pm

juliowinnfredo wrote:All I heard was "blah blah blah Rob is right." Thank you and good day sir.

/thread

by **Rob** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:30 pm

All I heard was "blah blah blah Rob is right." Thank you and good day sir.

/thread

by **kirk** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:16 pm

juliowinnfredo wrote:You could have just said "Rob is right." That is an acceptable and preferred answer.

But then I would have just been cherry-picking your response. I have to make it clear I have an inkling of knowledge.

by **Rob** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:14 pm

You could have just said "Rob is right." That is an acceptable and preferred answer.

by **kirk** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:29 pm

Schmiggs wrote:2 steps to fix anxiety:

1. Man Up

2. Deal With It

Grow up. Someone with generalized anxiety disorder can't just "man up."

juliowinnfredo wrote:That's simply not true. I don't know much about medicine or psychotherapy but I know therapists don't operate this way. They prescribe medicine as an immediate fix, therapy to find root causes and alleviate them, then behavioral therapy to eliminate harmful actions and promote beneficial ones to recondition a patient (such as rwc's recommendation that people breathe slowly).

That's my understanding, at least. Someone else here can probably explain it better and/or correct me.

Correct. When drugs are prescribed immediately it is usually coupled with therapy. If someone is extremely depressed, therapy alone usually isn't recommended as someone with that condition is in no state to even be capable of absorbing the psychotherapy.

Enough medication to 'stabilize,' so to speak, so the patient is capable of being reached via psychotherapy.

by **ryanemo** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:07 pm

yeah i was getting bad anxiety for a while simply from smoking all the time, causing a lot of panic attacks and shit. had to stop smoking to try and get rid of it lol

by **Schmiggs** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:22 am

Schmiggs wrote:2 steps to fix anxiety:

1. Man Up

2. Deal With It

by **unpro** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:34 pm

rwc8thc wrote:
unpro wrote:wait.. rwc you work in this field? i feel terrible for those people
Yep, I work at a state hospital with the California Dept of Mental Health. Lol don't feel terrible for us though, we love what we do. Anxiety is only the tip of the iceberg too. I'm frequently around people who have paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar disease, major depression, panic anxiety, suicidal risks, you name it.

If it's a mild anxiety we're talking about.. then just do some deep, slow breathing exercises and you might feel better. Close your eyes and focus on the breaths you take. It'll lower your heart rate and take your mind off what's stressing you for a few minutes. Works for me most of the time, depending on the stressor. I've seen research say that deep breathing exercises can have a similar effect to that of a dose of valium or other anxiolytics.

*edit* Although if I can try to understand what the OP is trying to say, I think he's referring to a more generalized anxiety. In that case, cognitive behavioral therapy and medication, medication, medication!

i meant i feel sorry for the patients.

by **Rob** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:05 pm

hellfire wrote: All in all yes, it could be a form of chemical imbalance however being human doctors think that drugs are the cure for everything "Keep taking these,and these and you'll be fine!". Where do we draw the line?

That's simply not true. I don't know much about medicine or psychotherapy but I know therapists don't operate this way. They prescribe medicine as an immediate fix, therapy to find root causes and alleviate them, then behavioral therapy to eliminate harmful actions and promote beneficial ones to recondition a patient (such as rwc's recommendation that people breathe slowly).

That's my understanding, at least. Someone else here can probably explain it better and/or correct me.

by **rwc8thc** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:41 am

unpro wrote:wait.. rwc you work in this field? i feel terrible for those people

Yep, I work at a state hospital with the California Dept of Mental Health. Lol don't feel terrible for us though, we love what we do. Anxiety is only the tip of the iceberg too. I'm frequently around people who have paranoid schizophrenia, bipolar disease, major depression, panic anxiety, suicidal risks, you name it.

If it's a mild anxiety we're talking about.. then just do some deep, slow breathing exercises and you might feel better. Close your eyes and focus on the breaths you take. It'll lower your heart rate and take your mind off what's stressing you for a few minutes. Works for me most of the time, depending on the stressor. I've seen research say that deep breathing exercises can have a similar effect to that of a dose of valium or other anxiolytics.

*edit* Although if I can try to understand what the OP is trying to say, I think he's referring to a more generalized anxiety. In that case, cognitive behavioral therapy and medication, medication, medication!

by **t`RavE** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:07 am

It's getting annoying that people name drop SEALs so much now after Osama's death.

by **`NG** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:47 am

He just works in the field in general.

copenhagen.

by **unpro** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:21 am

wait.. rwc you work in this field? i feel terrible for those people

by **Schmiggs** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:23 am

2 steps to fix anxiety:

1. Man Up

2. Deal With It

by **rwc8thc** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:57 pm

Lol wow. As someone who works in the psychiatric field, this thread is kinda funny.

Is this for real though?

by **lerfooled** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:51 pm

i was referring to the post you made that you've since edited out...

by **Rambizzle** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:15 pm

by **c-tOn** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:11 pm

Well for me, it was from smoking, but life helps eggs it on.

by **hellfire** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:31 pm

lerfooled wrote:i think maybe you mean awareness. how your attention and thoughts effect reality?

http://www.is-masaru-emoto-for-real.com/
http://www.istpp.org/crime_prevention/
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/09/scien ... ation.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleve_Backster

Im not sure if you understand my post. The mind only believes what it sees, yes thats a fact no science is needed for this topic. However there are no explanations for anxiety itself. I can see this topic already heading in the incorrect direction. We could debate this with facts from all over the internet. The true facts that does stand is we don't completely understand the human brain, nor can it be explained how it works. Every mind is unique in their own way, however only what your eyes see you believe.

On topic of Anxiety only people who have had anxiety can explain it. Doctors are still unsure what to cure anxiety with except tests with different forms of drugs to counter-balance the chemicals in the brain. All in all yes, it could be a form of chemical imbalance however being human doctors think that drugs are the cure for everything "Keep taking these,and these and you'll be fine!". Where do we draw the line?

The truth to the matter is unless you have had anxiety you wouldn't understand.

by **Sears** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:29 pm

whatevs, just thought it was a strange thread bro, I think everyone experiences anxiety in their life, not sure how you are tying this in with the totally drunk chick on that rambizzle thread.

by **lerfooled** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:09 pm

i think maybe you mean awareness. how your attention and thoughts effect reality?

http://www.is-masaru-emoto-for-real.com/
http://www.istpp.org/crime_prevention/
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/09/scien ... ation.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleve_Backster

by **hellfire** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:00 pm

c-tOn wrote:Anxiety sucks, had it in high school..

Glad you got rid of it, Some people are unfortunate to have it for life. The increased pressure from exams and such caused it im guessing?

by **c-tOn** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:58 pm

Anxiety sucks, had it in high school..

by **hellfire** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:57 pm

did you not read it? I thought people would understand

Its in reference to the post about Rambizzles mom gets DUI

by **Sears** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:43 pm

dude bro wtf

by **Rob** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:36 pm

what..?

by **hellfire** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:06 pm

yea so..

by **hellfire** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:58 am

This is a post in reference to people with anxiety, and also in regards to a previous topic "Rambizzles Moms gets a DUI". I feel its important enough to provide its own thread for people to discuss and understand its effects on the human mind.

Be aware, not all cases of anxiety are the same. Although in one shape or another result in the human to lose stability in thought in the moment. ( I call this being cloud-minded )

High Anxiety can cause a person to act and preform this way. Anxiety is actually a form of awareness that increases your senses by a significant amount causing you to over-think the obvious and jump ahead of the topic you are discussing. I know this because I have it. A lot of times you can use this to your benefit if you know how to control it. Anxiety does cause mild or in some cases a larger form of paranoia, and elevates the heart rate. There's no physical proof of a heart attack from anxiety, however in this case theirs no physical proof in this case either that this woman had anxiety as well.

In my case I profile people, I watch for signals that cause them to act this way. This allows me to learn more about myself and others, remember its not your hand moving your mouse its your brain. The brain causes some funky shit to happen when you lose focus on the task at hand. Next time you're itchy and you get that hint ( "now might now be the time to remove my hand..etc ") you lost your focus, primarily in a gamers case the focus is communication(sound); visual(sight) and instincts ( action of impulse )..

If anyone knows a navy seal IRL, pay attention to their actions. Attempt to tap them on the opposite shoulder without them knowing, attempt to think what they are pondering. Its primarily training your brain in tune to the task at hand, but maintaining that focus is the hard part.

This applies to any athlete, seal, gamer, driver .. human
As simple as this ladies accident seems like a joke its a simple reminder of the potential risks that come with loss of composure. Anything can happen in a instant.

(BTW I KNOW ITS JOKES, BUT MY POST IS SERIOUS )
Originally posted here -> http://nineteeneleven.org/forums/viewto ... f=25&t=401

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