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Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:11 pm
by theshizz
badnewspanda wrote:DoD - I show up for the matches, but stay for the drama.
hahahaahahaha

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:17 pm
by Blrsm
Give me a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much i feel like it, but I will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think i cheat anyways.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:19 pm
by AlopeX
badnewspanda wrote:DoD - I show up for the matches, but stay for the drama.

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Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:21 pm
by sevEN
guys, give aLxndr a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much he feels like it, but he will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think he cheats anyways.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:26 pm
by kirk
aLxndr wrote:Give me a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much i feel like it, but I will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think i cheat anyways.
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moosh wrote:Guys, seven says give aLxndr a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much he feels like it, but he will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think he cheats anyways.
Welcome to the 2,000 club. You're welcome.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:29 pm
by Yaso
aLxndr wrote:Give me a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much i feel like it, but I will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think i cheat anyways.

If this is who I think it is, they don't think you cheat, you openly admit to doing it.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:29 pm
by theshizz
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Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:34 pm
by AlopeX
alex kirk wrote:
aLxndr wrote:Give me a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much i feel like it, but I will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think i cheat anyways.
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moosh wrote:Guys, seven says give aLxndr a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much he feels like it, but he will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think he cheats anyways.
Welcome to the 2,000 club. You're welcome.

fixed

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:34 pm
by Sears
It feels like you posted the slow-motion clip as evidence for vindication, but it actually does just the opposite for me. :(

The biggest tell is that his recoil pitchspeed (the client cvar that pushes your crosshair up) DOESN'T appear to change an iota when he is going from standing to crouched. It's all one fluid downward motion as he crouches. This is pretty much impossible to reproduce in slow motion like that without help.

In addition to this, at the end, after he sprays through the door and he kills the guy through the window with his pistol, it overcompensates and flicks his crosshair down ever so slightly as he fires, or at least it appears to.

Now I haven't played DoD in a long time and I've never played with or against ceebz and I'm sure he's a nice guy and ra rar ra, but this slow-motion clip has won the argument over for me. When considering all of the factors, I have to conclude that he's most likely using a simple anti-recoil config that changes his pitchspeed when firing. It's an incredibly easy script to write and if you know what you're doing (and it appears he does) you can make it pretty damn hard to tell to the unaware.

I could be wrong, and I certainly don't mean ceebz or anyone who is defending him any offense, this is just the conclusion that I have to come to given the evidence that we've seen thus far.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:37 pm
by AlopeX
moosh wrote:Is this a riddle, alopex?

Edit: riddle solved upon YOUR edit.
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Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:38 pm
by rymoz
Sears wrote:It feels like you posted the slow-motion clip as evidence for vindication, but it actually does just the opposite for me. :(

The biggest tell is that his recoil pitchspeed (the client cvar that pushes your crosshair up) DOESN'T appear to change an iota when he is going from standing to crouched. It's all one fluid downward motion as he crouches. This is pretty much impossible to reproduce in slow motion like that without help.

In addition to this, at the end, after he sprays through the door and he kills the guy through the window with his pistol, it overcompensates and flicks his crosshair down ever so slightly as he fires, or at least it appears to.

Now I haven't played DoD in a long time and I've never played with or against ceebz and I'm sure he's a nice guy and ra rar ra, but this slow-motion clip has won the argument over for me. When considering all of the factors, I have to conclude that he's most likely using a simple anti-recoil config that changes his pitchspeed when firing. It's an incredibly easy script to write and if you know what you're doing (and it appears he does) you can make it pretty damn hard to tell to the unaware.

I could be wrong, and I certainly don't mean ceebz or anyone who is defending him any offense, this is just the conclusion that I have to come to given the evidence that we've seen thus far.
Copying it so people don't miss it.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:41 pm
by kirk
Sears wrote:It feels like you posted the slow-motion clip as evidence for vindication, but it actually does just the opposite for me. :(

The biggest tell is that his recoil pitchspeed (the client cvar that pushes your crosshair up) DOESN'T appear to change an iota when he is going from standing to crouched. It's all one fluid downward motion as he crouches. This is pretty much impossible to reproduce in slow motion like that without help.

In addition to this, at the end, after he sprays through the door and he kills the guy through the window with his pistol, it overcompensates and flicks his crosshair down ever so slightly as he fires, or at least it appears to.

Now I haven't played DoD in a long time and I've never played with or against ceebz and I'm sure he's a nice guy and ra rar ra, but this slow-motion clip has won the argument over for me. When considering all of the factors, I have to conclude that he's most likely using a simple anti-recoil config that changes his pitchspeed when firing. It's an incredibly easy script to write and if you know what you're doing (and it appears he does) you can make it pretty damn hard to tell to the unaware.

I could be wrong, and I certainly don't mean ceebz or anyone who is defending him any offense, this is just the conclusion that I have to come to given the evidence that we've seen thus far.
In b4 shizz responds with a "he mad" picture.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:42 pm
by rydN
ceebz explaining how he doesn't cheat:

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Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:43 pm
by kirk
moosh wrote:Ceebz' crosshair moves less than that convincingly real alligator in jules' avatar.
If you slow it down to 1/4 speed, the tail looks like it whips to the right at the beginning. But the alligator probably has some norecoil scripts on the tail, so.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:47 pm
by Airnick15
Wasn't the point of the slow motion to make it look more legit? Fail.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:48 pm
by stealthlol
alex kirk wrote:
moosh wrote:Ceebz' crosshair moves less than that convincingly real alligator in jules' avatar.
If you slow it down to 1/4 speed, the tail looks like it whips to the right at the beginning. But the alligator probably has some norecoil scripts on the tail, so.
You're so wrong, Alex. Can't you tell? The alligator has just been an alligator every chance it has had for the past few months. With enough practice, it makes you THINK it's tail is moving when -- quite obviously -- it isn't. You should know better. For shame. :roll:

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:51 pm
by kirk
stealthlol wrote:You're so wrong, Alex. Can't you tell? The alligator has just been an alligator every chance it has had for the past few months. With enough practice, it makes you THINK it's tail is moving when -- quite obviously -- it isn't. You should know better. For shame. :roll:
Admittedly I'm not very well-read on the natural movement of alligator tails. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the topic can speak up?

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:53 pm
by rydN
alex kirk wrote:
stealthlol wrote:You're so wrong, Alex. Can't you tell? The alligator has just been an alligator every chance it has had for the past few months. With enough practice, it makes you THINK it's tail is moving when -- quite obviously -- it isn't. You should know better. For shame. :roll:
Admittedly I'm not very well-read on the natural movement of alligator tails. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the topic can speak up?
David Hasselhoff can speak up.

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Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:57 pm
by chimpanzebra
TESTING AVATAR

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:04 pm
by toxinatoR
TESTING AVATAR

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:07 pm
by Miller`
rydN wrote: David Hasselhoff can speak up.

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Are those kids supposed to look like they go to Harry Potter's school?

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:18 pm
by hXc
after watching it in slow mo my guess is ceebz ran out of mouse pad, causing him to flick his mouse up after getting the kill on balcony.. i do that often myself

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:40 pm
by Rob
I'm sure ceebz will confirm your theory.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:42 pm
by kirk
hXc wrote:after watching it in slow mo my guess is ceebz ran out of mouse pad, causing him to flick his mouse up after getting the kill on balcony.. i do that often myself
Kind of fixating on the least important part of the entire clip, don't you think?

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:52 pm
by joeledmunds
seaN wrote:Steve Miller believes you are not legit, and he's the best AC this game has ever seen.
Just so we're clear, the thread ended here, and you're all just acting a fool now.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:03 pm
by sevEN
taylor is trolling us right now

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:07 pm
by seaNsk
joeledmunds wrote:
seaN wrote:Steve Miller believes you are not legit, and he's the best AC this game has ever seen.
Just so we're clear, the thread ended here, and you're all just acting a fool now.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:08 pm
by sevEN
this thread...

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Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:59 pm
by mg_
I don't know how the funniest clip has gone unmentioned. The sniping on Anzio with the awkward jerk upwards before the guy comes around the corner only to miss the guy running from between mid to sun dial.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:08 pm
by kirk
mg_ wrote:I don't know how the funniest clip has gone unmentioned. The sniping on Anzio with the awkward jerk upwards before the guy comes around the corner only to miss the guy running from between mid to sun dial.
I haven't watched the whole video, hah. What time is it at?

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:11 pm
by mg_
I didn't time it. I wasn't even watching it for cheating to be honest and completely spaced over the whole hullabaloo people are focused on. Shizz did a really good job with the editing and music to be honest.

I was watching it and thought "my, what a queer thing to do!"

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:35 pm
by Miller`
Very first clip?

[youtube]vHP5iee6zTw[/youtube]

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:54 pm
by AlopeX
mg_ wrote:I didn't time it. I wasn't even watching it for cheating to be honest and completely spaced over the whole hullabaloo people are focused on. Shizz did a really good job with the editing and music to be honest.

I was watching it and thought "my, what a queer thing to do!"

4:36

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:54 pm
by Jb_
If someone could teach me how to norecoil, I promise I will teach them how to duggie.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:06 pm
by ceebz
Sears wrote:It feels like you posted the slow-motion clip as evidence for vindication, but it actually does just the opposite for me. :(

The biggest tell is that his recoil pitchspeed (the client cvar that pushes your crosshair up) DOESN'T appear to change an iota when he is going from standing to crouched. It's all one fluid downward motion as he crouches. This is pretty much impossible to reproduce in slow motion like that without help.

In addition to this, at the end, after he sprays through the door and he kills the guy through the window with his pistol, it overcompensates and flicks his crosshair down ever so slightly as he fires, or at least it appears to.

Now I haven't played DoD in a long time and I've never played with or against ceebz and I'm sure he's a nice guy and ra rar ra, but this slow-motion clip has won the argument over for me. When considering all of the factors, I have to conclude that he's most likely using a simple anti-recoil config that changes his pitchspeed when firing. It's an incredibly easy script to write and if you know what you're doing (and it appears he does) you can make it pretty damn hard to tell to the unaware.

I could be wrong, and I certainly don't mean ceebz or anyone who is defending him any offense, this is just the conclusion that I have to come to given the evidence that we've seen thus far.
I don't even know how to make a no recoil script let alone any kind of script lol. I've never scripted in my life. If only there was a client. I did good on client back in cal and cevo days. Idk why that one clip is like that, but a split second it's fine lol. And I have PLENTY of recoil. Just control it pretty good. Watch all my demos, I'll glady upload the rest I have so you can watch them all. Or you can pm narc or rwc and as them, they probably have 40 some demos of me.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:26 pm
by Sears
ceebz wrote:I don't even know how to make a no recoil script let alone any kind of script lol. I've never scripted in my life. If only there was a client. I did good on client back in cal and cevo days. Idk why that one clip is like that, but a split second it's fine lol. And I have PLENTY of recoil. Just control it pretty good. Watch all my demos, I'll glady upload the rest I have so you can watch them all. Or you can pm narc or rwc and as them, they probably have 40 some demos of me.
I can't watch any demos on the macbook, or I would, and I'm not saying that you should be banned based on the evidence in this thread, just that there is enough to convince me that you are more than likely using an anti-recoil config.

As you know, an anti-cheat client wouldn't be able to detect this. It's just a 6 line config that you can execute with a bind.

The only way that I can think of to replicate what I've seen in your movie clips over time, is by using such a script.

Like I said, I'm not formulating this opinion out of any personal vendetta, as I have no beef with anyone. I just think that it's highly unlikely that you are producing such results by means other than an anti-recoil or no spread. I very well may be wrong, but this is my objective opinion on the matter.

You say you have plenty of recoil, but you just "control it pretty good". That's not what I see in these clips, I see a player that isn't controlling recoil very well, because he doesn't have to.

Anti-recoiling is something that is really difficult to ban someone for, and I don't necessarily think that the evidence from video clips warrants any kind of ban. It's almost impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is using anti-recoil, unless they really screw up or have it set too high for the gun that they are using. However, there is definitely enough evidence for me to establish an opinion on what is most likely going on, and at this point I have to lean the side of probable cause for anti-recoil.

Sorry, no fense or anything.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:22 pm
by tenks
sevEN wrote:this thread...

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I used to play with those toys when I was little. Holy shit, that was the picture on my lunchbox!

DINO RIDERS!!


[youtube]tpuhLkh358Y[/youtube]


1988, great year

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:26 am
by Blrsm
Yaso wrote:
aLxndr wrote:Give me a few hours, possibly till morning depending upon how much i feel like it, but I will inform the AC's of what norecoiling is, since they all think i cheat anyways.

If this is who I think it is, they don't think you cheat, you openly admit to doing it.
And yes yaso, i have cheated in 12mans/scrims ect.
But not in matches, and never plan to.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:26 am
by Blrsm
tenks wrote:
sevEN wrote:this thread...

Image

I used to play with those toys when I was little. Holy shit, that was the picture on my lunchbox!

DINO RIDERS!!


[youtube]tpuhLkh358Y[/youtube]


1988, great year
Used to love this fucking movie, LAWL

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:58 am
by Sears
[youtube]zjhJSD8RU4k[/youtube]

way better

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:05 am
by Blrsm
[youtube]kb0aXHsZoI8[/youtube]

I say that the one where his crosshair doesn't move at all is either a nospread and norecoil hack, or the noammo glitch. Probably the latter. Otherwise THAT PISTOL GOES WAY DOWN, and anyone who's norecoiled by script before knows what i mean.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:13 am
by Sears
Thanks for making that, illustrated my points pretty much spot on.

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:14 am
by Blrsm
[youtube]vpXM9bj-WPU[/youtube]
hell yeah

Re: ceebz, what is this? [NSFW 2nd post]

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:15 am
by Airnick15
Who's alexander?