1911 Beta

Las1K64` wrote:Flakk88 in 2003. Most dominant lan team the game has ever seen.

tr4gik wrote:lasik how'd competitive cs:s work out for ya?

scorch- wrote:

seanality wrote:Teams like hb and risk had crazy amounts of skill where teams like col and x6 had grandpa like self-control and experience, they always did the right things at the right times.

Now that I am older and have more of understanding for the game I can see why certain players were needed for a team. Chaos and max were smart and could hold a route but would hardly win a one v one against the top players in the game where Kellen, dorito, and Marshall would frag like sobs.

Why are skill and self-control mutually exclusive in your mind? Dorito and deadbeat were the best players in the game because they were faster and had better aim and made better decisions than anyone else at their positions. Watch bryan's movies and ask yourself how often was he in a bad position and had to make a great shot to stay alive... and count those versus the times he was in a great position and hit a good shot that he made look easy. And that's in a movie, where someone's showing off his ability to hit incredible shots.

I don't expect you to know this because I don't think you've ever sniped, but the hardest skill to learn for a sniper is to not shoot, or to shoot slower. Call it self-control, or patience, but it's something that you have to train yourself to do if you want to be the best. Being able to tell the difference between someone showing their left shoulder to bait a shot and someone peeking with their left shoulder is fucking hard. If a sniper can't do that, they're not good. They're toast against anyone good. Your team straight up loses middle on rr2, and any other map with sniper windows, if your sniper can't do this and the other team's can. There were a lot of cal-i snipers that couldn't do that. Were they more or less skilled than snipers that practiced that level of self-control and visual recognition? You actually have to be faster than people that shoot at that shoulder bait if you want to be able to recognize it and then react. If you're that fast, you realize you can train yourself to be better than everyone else and you go do it. This applies to a ton of other situations where not shooting as fast as you can react gives you an easier, more consistently hittable shot.

x6 was the best because we had more skill and made better decisions than other teams, not one or the other. coL was likely the same, although I didn't play with them so I can't speak for them.

p.s. Max was taking rounds off carnage in ra3 at our Lethal Gamers bootcamp. He had really fucking good aim. If you associate proning (to ensure kills) with bad aim, it's because you've never been good.

sparz wrote:hi beas but nope still not close to 2005 x6 thanks bye

Beas wrote:

sparz wrote:hi beas but nope still not close to 2005 x6 thanks bye

sparz wrote:

Beas wrote:

sparz wrote:hi beas but nope still not close to 2005 x6 thanks bye

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avenger wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:22 am

Sears wrote:

Jb_ wrote:You are correct in that there were 2 versions of ve, however when nude was around it was the original ve with dune,tkz,poopship,slimz,nig and I wanna say plex? One version of ve was 3.1 while the other was after. I believe the second go round the roster was something like tkz, plex, holeman, tofu, max nig/poopship.

Yeah, the first ve (betas) was nig, poop-ship, tkz, dune, sgt pepper, bsoul, alcatraz, dawg etc. They added strife, plex, and ub3r in late 3.1 when 101st and iLan died.

The first ve also had (if i remember correctly) myself, cope (played as R3B3L at the time), BMS and chewiealf i believe.