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Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:06 am**

Charr wrote:There is no reason to treat them differently. Simply referring to the rules would suffice in both cases. It's so elementary it fucking hurts. How many times do I need to say it? The circumstances are exactly the same. Someone. Rated. Fucking right over your head.

Right. One match, in regular season, you lose by a very small margin, had someone rating, and thus still ended up losing the match.

In another, in playoffs, you lose by 2+ caps, that team had someone rating, and thus a rematch is proposed.

To say the circumstances are exactly the same is objectively wrong. You can plug your ears and shout, "RATES! RATES!" all you want, but there ARE different circumstances that you are simply REFUSING to acknowledge. It's not that they don't exist; it's that you aren't acknowledging them when they are right there.

Is there a difference between losing by 2 points vs. 100 points? Simple yes or no should work.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:06 am**

dorraj wrote:Jesus fucking christ, I have a headache just from reading all this shit, Char. Clearly you're a retarded shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot idiot.

I'm not really a mean person, you just make me angry.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:09 am**

alex kirk wrote:
Charr wrote:There is no reason to treat them differently. Simply referring to the rules would suffice in both cases. It's so elementary it fucking hurts. How many times do I need to say it? The circumstances are exactly the same. Someone. Rated. Fucking right over your head.
Right. One match, in regular season, you lose by a very small margin, had someone rating, and thus still ended up losing the match.

In another, in playoffs, you lose by 2+ caps, that team had someone rating, and thus a rematch is proposed.

To say the circumstances are exactly the same is objectively wrong. You can plug your ears and shout, "RATES! RATES!" all you want, but there ARE different circumstances that you are simply REFUSING to acknowledge. It's not that they don't exist; it's that you aren't acknowledging them when they are right there.

Is there a difference between losing by 2 points vs. 100 points? Simple yes or no should work.

huh? Is there a difference between two different players rating? One had 7500, the other had 7500. One was on our team, one was on an admin's team. Hmm.. See where I'm going with this? The admin who handled the first case FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY. The admin who handled the second case IGNORED THE RULES COMPLETELY. Done being confused? k.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:11 am**

Charr wrote:huh? Is there a difference between two different players rating? One had 7500, the other had 7500. One was on our team, one was on an admin's team. Hmm.. See where I'm going with this? The admin who handled the first case FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY. The admin who handled the second case IGNORED THE RULES COMPLETELY. Done being confused? k.

And you completely overlook all the circumstances associated with each case. Like how in one match, the loss margin was significantly smaller AND you still had someone rating. In the other, you lost by 2+ caps and the other team had someone rating.

Do you acknowledge this? Because I'm getting sick of running intellectual circles around you.

Please respond.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:13 am**

alex kirk wrote:
Charr wrote:huh? Is there a difference between two different players rating? One had 7500, the other had 7500. One was on our team, one was on an admin's team. Hmm.. See where I'm going with this? The admin who handled the first case FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY. The admin who handled the second case IGNORED THE RULES COMPLETELY. Done being confused? k.
And you completely overlook all the circumstances associated with each case. Like how in one match, the loss margin was significantly smaller AND you still had someone rating. In the other, you lost by 2+ caps and the other team had someone rating.

Do you acknowledge this? Because I'm getting sick of running intellectual circles around you.

Please respond.

The admin who handled the first case FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY. The admin who handled the second case IGNORED THE RULES COMPLETELY. Done being confused? k. <- that is my entire argument. You will either respond to that, or not at all. I'm done stomping on your confused, delusional brain.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:15 am**

Charr wrote:The admin who handled the first case FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY. The admin who handled the second case IGNORED THE RULES COMPLETELY. Done being confused? k. <- that is my entire argument. You will either respond to that, or not at all. I'm done stomping on your confused, delusional brain.

Funny how no one, not even your own team agrees with you.

And funny how you conveniently overlook the rule that states TPG admins treat each case individually. In both cases admins FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY BECAUSE ALL ACTIONS TAKEN WERE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE TPG SET OF RULES.

2ez.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:19 am**

alex kirk wrote:
Charr wrote:The admin who handled the first case FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY. The admin who handled the second case IGNORED THE RULES COMPLETELY. Done being confused? k. <- that is my entire argument. You will either respond to that, or not at all. I'm done stomping on your confused, delusional brain.
Funny how no one, not even your own team agrees with you.

And funny how you conveniently overlook the rule that states TPG admins treat each case individually. In both cases admins FOLLOWED THE RULES EXACTLY BECAUSE ALL ACTIONS TAKEN WERE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE TPG SET OF RULES.

2ez.

The rules aren't guidelines or suggestions. They are rules. Also, the part about admins handling each case individually sort of implies that they will do so under complicated scenarios. I thought it to be painfully obvious, but since you keep insisting that it is something completely different, I must inform you of your misinterpretation. Again. This must be a severe condition you have. It seems to get worse as you get angrier and angrier. Never understanding anything. Must be a tough life.
Edit : I must now declare that your argument is not only crippled, but boring. Please send someone else to take your place, or go away completely.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:21 am**

Charr wrote:The rules aren't guidelines or suggestions. They are rules. Also, the part about admins handling each case individually sort of implies that they will do so under complicated scenarios. I thought it to be painfully obvious, but since you keep insisting that it is something completely different, I must inform you of your misinterpretation. Again. This must be a severe condition you have. It seems to get worse as your get angrier and angrier. Never understanding anything. Must be a tough life.

Angry? We're in vent laughing at you. People from YOUR TEAM have PMed some of us telling us how much they disagree with you. Get ready for the snip snip, brah. I'd be surprised if you aren't cut soon for being such an embarrassment to your comrades.

You have yet to acknowledge the drastic difference between losing a match by a narrow margin and losing by 2 caps. But sure, keep living in your delusional world that there are no differences between these scenarios.

Do you regret dropping out of high school?

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:23 am**

Charr wrote:Never understanding anything. Must be a tough life.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:24 am**

So my phone burst into flames trying to keep up with this thread. Attempted to post on page 8, but my phone said "Cannot compute.". So now it's page 9 and my other post never made it in. All I want to do is post in this damn epic thread! By the time this gets through, I'm expecting page 11 or 12...

You better forever archive this Eric, or we'll all neg rep your ass! I think my 5 year old could understand the LOGIC behind the admins decision. Char, "you a dumbass..."

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:25 am**

alex kirk wrote:
Charr wrote:The rules aren't guidelines or suggestions. They are rules. Also, the part about admins handling each case individually sort of implies that they will do so under complicated scenarios. I thought it to be painfully obvious, but since you keep insisting that it is something completely different, I must inform you of your misinterpretation. Again. This must be a severe condition you have. It seems to get worse as your get angrier and angrier. Never understanding anything. Must be a tough life.
Angrier? We're in vent laughing at you. People from YOUR TEAM have PMed some of us telling us how much they disagree with you. Get ready for the snip snip, brah. I'd be surprised if you aren't cut soon for being such an embarrassment to your comrades.

You have yet to acknowledge the drastic difference between losing a match by a narrow margin and losing by 2 caps. But sure, keep living in your delusional world that there are no differences between these scenarios.

Do you regret dropping out of high school?

Graduated College actually. And my "team mates" are just a few friends + a large portion of people I don't even know. Can't tell you how silly you are that you're "laughing in vent" over being destroyed on a forum. Most of my team has their own opinion. Sure, you can say I'm alone in my argument if it makes you feel better. Doesn't mean you are making sense of things though. You are still clueless and boring to talk to. Also, being surrounded by biased friends doesn't make you right. It just means you have biased friends. I'm right. You're wrong. Getwrecked.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:27 am**

hahah brother, this is a complicated scenario...

let me explain further - we had a player who played his first match this season.. the majority of the community knows who he is, and even players on your team. People know he didn't do this to gain any advantage, and it happened because he joined a pub or HLTV previous to joining the match. The server he joined reset his rate to default, and not being an experienced match player, but more of a playing for fun he never thought to check. simply mistake that people understand, and he was honest about. no hard feelings to your team for disputing it, but very hard feelings for you being an idiot.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:27 am**

Charr wrote:Graduated College actually. And my "team mates" are just a few friends + a large portion of people I don't even know. Can't tell you how silly you are that you're "laughing in vent" over being destroyed on a forum. Most of my team has their own opinion. Sure, you can say I'm alone in my argument if it makes you feel better. Doesn't mean you are making sense of things though. You are still clueless and boring to talk to. Also, being surrounded by biased friends doesn't make you right. It just means you have biased friends. I'm right. You're wrong. Getwrecked.

Good luck with your delusional goals of 2012. Because rating is rating! Even when you lose by 5 or 100. No difference!

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:27 am**

dorraj wrote:Jesus fucking christ, I have a headache just from reading all this shit, Char. Clearly you're a retarded shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot idiot.

I'm not really a mean person, you just make me angry.

see i think its in cases like these that killing should be legalized. this is the only post ive read on this thread beyond page one and i think i get the gist.

charr, we have plenty of right to kill you now.

for those in favor theres this petition going out on the web for necessary killings such as these. anyone whos interested might want to check it out:

http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j ... a2IdC1cRDQ

a brief excerpt:

Category: Civil & Human Rights
Target: to legalize killing under certain circumstances
Author: kyle allaire (doguro_dt@hotmail.com)
URL: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/legalizekilling/
Started: December 5, 2005, 4:54:01 am
Generated Date: November 2, 2011, 2:30:26 am
Total Signatures: 4
If anyone calls you stupid, retarded, a fag, a gay, or an idiot, and you are not one then you can kill them with
a hammer, sewing machine,pencil sharpener, oven mitts, can opener, or bare hands if your in the jungle. i
want this to be put in the constitution because i have killed people wtih each

feel free to email that guy, i think he could handle it objectively

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:28 am**

james- wrote:Sears, track down a Mr. Cody Widget(orsomethinglikethat) I hear he knows all about the brazilian fart porn.

found that on his computer in the byoc in 04 LOL..... good times

by the way WHO THE FUCK IS CHAR

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:29 am**

guess I can safely sign this for you (as a unbiased friend of course)

luckly I live in Brazil

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:30 am**

acetamino wrote:hahah brother, this is a complicated scenario...

let me explain further - we had a player who played his first match this season.. the majority of the community knows who he is, and even players on your team. People know he didn't do this to gain any advantage, and it happened because he joined a pub or HLTV previous to joining the match. The server he joined reset his rate to default, and not being an experienced match player, but more of a playing for fun he never thought to check. simply mistake that people understand, and he was honest about. no hard feelings to your team for disputing it, but very hard feelings for you being an idiot.

You did gain an advantage though. Should have took your loss instead of calling names and crying. We did nothing wrong. Fail logic.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:31 am**

Charr, do you want to murder people? you're a fucking cocksucker.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:33 am**

dorraj wrote:Charr, do you want to murder people? you're a fucking cocksucker.

Has nothing to do with the thread. Don't know you. Don't want to. Go back to your greaseCave. mad.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:33 am**

Swiss wrote:a brief excerpt:

Category: Civil & Human Rights
Target: to legalize killing under certain circumstances
Author: kyle allaire (doguro_dt@hotmail.com)
URL: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/legalizekilling/
Started: December 5, 2005, 4:54:01 am
Generated Date: November 2, 2011, 2:30:26 am
Total Signatures: 4
If anyone calls you stupid, retarded, a fag, a gay, or an idiot, and you are not one then you can kill them with
a hammer, sewing machine,pencil sharpener, oven mitts, can opener, or bare hands if your in the jungle. i
want this to be put in the constitution because i have killed people wtih each
feel free to email that guy, i think he could handle it objectively

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:38 am**

Charr wrote:
dorraj wrote:Charr, do you want to murder people? you're a fucking cocksucker.
Has nothing to do with the thread. Don't know you. Don't want to. Go back to your greaseCave. mad.

Do you want to do this to me? Are you a psycho? Are you angry about something? Angry that you're a faggot?

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:38 am**

Thanks for the avatar, but can you change it to team edward? I really don't like dogs/wolves or anything of the sort.
edit :WOW this one is really good, better than anything I could cook up. TY.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:42 am**

Charr wrote:
acetamino wrote:hahah brother, this is a complicated scenario...

let me explain further - we had a player who played his first match this season.. the majority of the community knows who he is, and even players on your team. People know he didn't do this to gain any advantage, and it happened because he joined a pub or HLTV previous to joining the match. The server he joined reset his rate to default, and not being an experienced match player, but more of a playing for fun he never thought to check. simply mistake that people understand, and he was honest about. no hard feelings to your team for disputing it, but very hard feelings for you being an idiot.
You did gain an advantage though. Should have took your loss instead of calling names and crying. We did nothing wrong. Fail logic.

Well...umm... I did not bring up any advantage gained in that post so you clearly cannot read. I'd also like to inform you we did take the loss, and I was a strong advocate of that all along, so you can stop adding that to your argument because we both agree about that.
I'd also like to add we did not gain any advantage... we used a player we had no experience with, no teamwork established with, and we were all yelling at him the entire time. Our team did nothing wrong. a player made a mistake by assuming all was well, when a server he used to warm-up in changed his rates. it was unfortunate, and dissappointing, but at the end of the day he made no mistake and it was just a disappointing turn of events. It was a fun game, Austin and Will, goodluck against kevin, joel, and matt.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:44 am**

Swiss wrote:a brief excerpt:

Category: Civil & Human Rights
Target: to legalize killing under certain circumstances
Author: kyle allaire (doguro_dt@hotmail.com)
URL: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/legalizekilling/
Started: December 5, 2005, 4:54:01 am
Generated Date: November 2, 2011, 2:30:26 am
Total Signatures: 4
If anyone calls you stupid, retarded, a fag, a gay, or an idiot, and you are not one then you can kill them with
a hammer, sewing machine,pencil sharpener, oven mitts, can opener, or bare hands if your in the jungle. i
want this to be put in the constitution because i have killed people wtih each
feel free to email that guy, i think he could handle it objectively

wait......dear god thats charr......

(THANK GOD I LIVE ALL THE WAY IN HONG KONG RIGHT NOW)

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:49 am**

I believe we are...

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:51 am**

well i was kinda on board with this whole petition thing until i saw your other petition, mr kyle "charr" allaire

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/BOP/

Ban Online Petitions
Published November 3, 2005
We the people of the United States Of Earth wish to ban any and all proposals which imply to technological surveys of any sort through computer, cell phone and digital vote.All online petitions shall be void and inafective as of 01/01/06 of the USA calender in the friggen white house.I will hereby pronounce all online petitions obsolete with the legal signatures of 50 participants from any country that isn't china.
-The online petition to ban online petitions-

-Kyle Allaire- -*****es-
By kyle allaire

i dont know if i can trust a petition made by a hypocritical radical

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:54 am**

Kid be trollin' cause they get destroyed in debates. Same ol' shit. Getwrecked.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:56 am**

Charr wrote:Kid be trollin' cause they get destroyed in debates. Same ol' shit. Getwrecked.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:59 am**

if anyone deserves to be mauled by a bear, its you

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:08 am**

Hey you faggot, stop whining about the rates. Where the fuck are you... let's fight on the internet!

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:09 am**

dorraj wrote:Hey you faggot, stop whining about the rates. Where the fuck are you... let's fight on the internet!

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:57 am**

I spent the last 20 minutes reading this thread, it delivered.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:12 am**

This thing really took off when I went to sleep. Char, you really are a fucking idiot.

Sears, I need god neg repping status. I can't do it anymore. Please fix.

Char, you are making the same point over and over. Which by the way is invalid.

Passing your basics class at ECPI doesn't count as being college educated by the way...

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:59 am**

alex kirk wrote:Basically this whole case sounds like Bayside High's ordeal at CPL 2005.

This makes me sad and angry.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:42 am**

Charr wrote:You should at least get your facts straight before storming in here like a 6 year old on a sugar high, making little to no sense at all. You just seem to skim through things and misinterpret nearly everything that is right in front of your face. Very tragic if you have this disability in the real world.

Skipping ahead 4 pages in this reading marathon to say: Everything Alex has said not only makes sense, but is completely right. You're just wrong and to try and defend yourself, you repeat everything you've already said.

You sniped against mpvz, right? All I have to say is: Please snipe in the finals. Please.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:28 am**

Just logged in to say great fucking thread

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:36 am**

OMFG. I'm french so I dont read english as fast as you guys and i sppent the last 30min reading this. CARE-O-METER IS AT ITS TOP. Great fuckin read. And I'll remember forever the day that you said you had no respect for me Narc. Marked on my calendar forever

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:38 am**

From what I have gathered:

Taylu_b was originally going to dispute and get the FF Win.
After reconsideration he decided just to let the match go.
TPG Admin ( Tox ) intervenes and suggests they do a rematch instead of just letting it go.
Things get blown out of proportion on the forums.
Char spews out 5 pages of trolling.
Narc decides to just let Mindflow have the FF Win to end this madness
Char still spews out more trolling and complaining even though he got what he wanted
Page 10.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:39 am**

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

For someone that is so dead set on following the rules to the "t" you really stopped reading that rule, because in the same rule that you are using as a basis for your argument also has a second part to the rule. The same person that wrote that rule also added that rule. Why is that? Maybe because they know every online dispute will be alittle different. Thus causing the addition to that rule. You can sit here and call it corrupt but, I as with most call it a tpg admin reviewing each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:47 am**

what a good read. went to bed last night and it was only 6 pages woke up and was 10 pages

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:01 am**

mogers wrote:From what I have gathered:

Taylu_b was originally going to dispute and get the FF Win.
After reconsideration he decided just to let the match go.
TPG Admin ( Tox ) intervenes and suggests they do a rematch instead of just letting it go.
Things get blown out of proportion on the forums.
Char spews out 5 pages of trolling.
Narc decides to just let Mindflow have the FF Win to end this madness
Char still spews out more trolling and complaining even though he got what he wanted
Page 10.

you forgot the very important Page 9 in which the xmate crew began to all fear for our lives (see petition #1)

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:21 am**

At what -rep point does a dumbass get banned?

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:22 am**

reps for cliffs on thread and reps for cliffs on who the hell Char is

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:29 am**

Char wrote: He fixed his rate second half, and you lost second half. I guess that we just happened to get MAGICALLY BETTER at a video game in the span of 5 minutes. Clearly we were outplayed.

Just saw this gem of a post.

IT WAS FUCKING HARRINGTON. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER ON ALLIES BECAUSE IT IS AN ALLIED-SIDED MAP.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:57 am**

Miller` wrote:At what -rep point does a dumbass get banned?

He went through two accounts, after his first one got banned for low rep, he made another one. Then I had to keep giving him rep so that one wouldn't get banned so we could keep the thread going.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:59 am**

None of this nonsense should impact the outcome though, still think you guys should just play a rematch like originally planned.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:13 am**

Schmiggs wrote:Sears, I need god neg repping status. I can't do it anymore. Please fix.

No, you're still on timeout!

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:49 am**

moosh wrote: Amazing petition btw. According to that Char has 6+ murders under his belt. Way more than jb.

lol you have no clue how many little black children i have buried under the house!

keep this thread going its good for dod!

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