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stile wrote:I think taylor is just frustrated that you guys aren't willing to concede to his point of view.

btw, i didn't read the thread.

That's just it: he doesn't have a point of view that is rooted in anything remotely logical. He just responds with sarcasm or "LOL." That's his point of view. Nothing with substance has been said.

He reminds me of people who think they are smart by acting extremely stupid for the sake of trolling, when in reality not being clever enough to troll with an ounce of creativity just shows how stupid you are.

So conclusion anyone?

1911 threads are not worth reading.

alex kirk wrote: That's just it: he doesn't have a point of view that is rooted in anything remotely logical. He just responds with sarcasm or "LOL." That's his point of view. Nothing with substance has been said.

He reminds me of people who think they are smart by acting extremely stupid for the sake of trolling, when in reality not being clever enough to troll with an ounce of creativity just shows how stupid you are.

i'm sitting here laughing because i find it comedic that you feel the need to boast how you have more "experience" than myself in a video game. congrats.

hXc wrote:i'm sitting here laughing because i find it comedic that you feel the need to boast how you have more "experience" than myself in a video game. congrats.

I'm sitting here laughing because you think me stating something that is objectively true (look up the word 'objective' - I imagine you'll struggle with it) is boasting. Again: you have the critical thinking skills of a menstruating 12 year old girl. Laugh all you like, but everyone in this thread who isn't on flawless (save for two flawless members who have PMed me, actually) are laughing at how unbelievably dumb you are. Aren't you 18 or 19 or some shit?

I'll spare you the trouble for typing your next response: "ROFL"

Kirk, what is your opinion on Insanity?

Hxc has always finished every sentence with lol or rofl. He's one of the dumbest people that I've ever run across.

stile wrote:1911 threads are not worth reading.

Only post worth reading.

alex kirk wrote:Do you want to let the DoD community decide who is more knowledgeable and has more experience between you and the group of people listed...?

THIS CALLS FOR A VOTE

defiance wrote:Kirk, what is your opinion on Insanity?

I thought you were talking about mental insanity lulzlulzuluzluzlulz. I was like, damn, that's deep. How do I approach this?

ANYWAYS. Umm...what are your goals? Looking for a cardio routine? Go for it. Looking to actually do anything for your muscles/anaerobic strength? You could find significantly better things to do.

alex kirk wrote:

defiance wrote:Kirk, what is your opinion on Insanity?

I thought you were talking about mental insanity lulzlulzuluzluzlulz. I was like, damn, that's deep. How do I approach this?

ANYWAYS. Umm...what are your goals? Looking for a cardio routine? Go for it. Looking to actually do anything for your muscles/anaerobic strength? You could find significantly better things to do.

My goals are strict weight loss. I used to run. ALOT. In the past 2 years i've pulled both calf muscles twice and as a result, have not been able to run, which resulted in weight gain. The gym and riding a bike for 20 miles isn't cutting it.

I have no interesting in muscle mass, but i heard great success stories from people on P90x, but i have no interest in weights. Just was wondering if this thing is a legit infomerical like p90x is or a fraud.

tabata's on an eliptical.

I went to the cpl, and I dont know shit. Wasnt very good either.

defiance wrote:My goals are strict weight loss. I used to run. ALOT. In the past 2 years i've pulled both calf muscles twice and as a result, have not been able to run, which resulted in weight gain. The gym and riding a bike for 20 miles isn't cutting it.

I have no interesting in muscle mass, but i heard great success stories from people on P90x, but i have no interest in weights. Just was wondering if this thing is a legit infomerical like p90x is or a fraud.

Your best friend in weight loss is always, always lifting heavy weights. Period. This includes people who have no interest in gaining muscle. But it you're not interested in doing it, then something anaerobic like P90x/Insanity will certainly work, but it won't be as good as lifting weights.

stile wrote:tabata's on an eliptical.

For people with vaginas, sure.

rofl. tabata's aren't easy. an eliptical would be less stressful on your legs than running.

or sign up at a martial arts gym or something.

alex kirk wrote:

defiance wrote:My goals are strict weight loss. I used to run. ALOT. In the past 2 years i've pulled both calf muscles twice and as a result, have not been able to run, which resulted in weight gain. The gym and riding a bike for 20 miles isn't cutting it.

I have no interesting in muscle mass, but i heard great success stories from people on P90x, but i have no interest in weights. Just was wondering if this thing is a legit infomerical like p90x is or a fraud.

Your best friend in weight loss is always, always lifting heavy weights. Period. This includes people who have no interest in gaining muscle. But it you're not interested in doing it, then something anaerobic like P90x/Insanity will certainly work, but it won't be as good as lifting weights.

stile wrote:tabata's on an eliptical.

For people with vaginas, sure.

Wait, if you lift weights, that builds up your muscles wich means you eat more right? And if you dosent eat more the body will "take energy" from the muscles? So dosen't lifting weight just adds muscles/weight without burning fat?
Am i completely wrong here?

Am i completely wrong here?

Yes.

Lifiting weights is always better for fat loss than cardio. Spending hours in the gym being a cardio queen is a waste of time unless you are fat as hell to begin with so basically anything would be "effective"

I don't know the exact science, but I know lifting increases the amount of fat your muscles burn. The unscientific explanation that was told to me was that even when you aren't lifting, your body will be constantly burning fat. Something like that.

Interesting, so what burns more fat, high weights with few reps, or lower weight with more reps?

stile wrote:rofl. tabata's aren't easy. an eliptical would be less stressful on your legs than running.

or sign up at a martial arts gym or something.

So do tabatas on a bike. Or be a man and do longer HIIT. I know the Tabata study that says you burn 2,000 calories in 4 minutes of 20 second/10 second HIIT, but it's dumb.

lolinus wrote:Wait, if you lift weights, that builds up your muscles wich means you eat more right? And if you dosent eat more the body will "take energy" from the muscles? So dosen't lifting weight just adds muscles/weight without burning fat?
Am i completely wrong here?

Lifting weights exercises your muscle. How you eat is what determines what the result of that exercise is. Lift weights and eat at a caloric surplus = gain muscle. Lift weights and eat at maintenance = maintain muscle. Lift weights and eat at a caloric deficit = lose/maintain muscle (you can minimize the amount you lose drastically, but you will lose some, but you lose significantly less muscle than if you were to NOT lift weights). There are exceptions to these, specifically for beginners in weight training and people who use steroids, but that is the rule for the majority of the population.

So if you lift weights you gain muscle, you maintain it, or you reduce the amount you lose. What determines these three things is the diet you eat.

Cliffs: unless you are trying to ride the Tour de France, you should always lift weights.

you guys should just take up a manly sport like ceebz.. go huntin' or something. look what that does for his recoil. no dod recoil > a solid 6 pack.

I believe low weights but high reps. That isn't very functional though. Ideally you want to increase your strength, not muscle endurance.

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hXc wrote:you guys should just take up a manly sport like ceebz.. go huntin' or something. look what that does for his recoil. no dod recoil > a solid 6 pack.

i'd rather do kung fu

Reh wrote:Yes.

Lifiting weights is always better for fat loss than cardio. Spending hours in the gym being a cardio queen is a waste of time unless you are fat as hell to begin with so basically anything would be "effective"

Absolutely this. 100%. Unfortunately the mainstream "science" regarding exercise says the opposite.

stile wrote:I don't know the exact science, but I know lifting increases the amount of fat your muscles burn. The unscientific explanation that was told to me was that even when you aren't lifting, your body will be constantly burning fat. Something like that.

What results in weight loss is a caloric deficit. When you lose weight, you lose fat, muscle, and glycogen. In order to maximize FAT loss and minimize MUSCLE loss you need to exercise your muscles. Thus, weight training is a muscle-sparing activity. So when you lose weight via caloric deficit, lifting weights maximizes the fat you lose by minimizing the muscle you lose. Thus, your greatest friend to fat loss = weight training. NOT cardio.

lolinus wrote:Interesting, so what burns more fat, high weights with few reps, or lower weight with more reps?

This is kind of a trick question, though I realize it isn't your intention. Unless you are specifically training for some athletic endurance event or doing a deload, everyone should always be lifting heavier weights for lower reps. Your goal is to stress the muscle in the most effective way possible, and you do this lifting at ~80-85% of your 1 rep max, which comes to 6-8 repetitions. For the main lifts (bench press, deadlift, squat, military press, barbell row, etc.) you should aim for this number. For accessory lifts, like dumbbell curls or tricep extensions, you might aim higher.

You may burn more fat doing high reps/low weight, but you similarly risk less muscle stress which risks greater muscle loss. Your #1 goal in fat loss consists of two things: caloric deficit + muscle retention. Muscle retention is best done at high weight. High reps/low weight may result in a greater caloric output, thus a greater fat burn, but that's missing the forest for the trees.

I'm so sick of every single thread turning into a work out thread.

Let me be fat in peace.

go train at the dojo linus. you won't regret it

stile wrote:Just because kirk has played a couple years more than taylor makes his opinion weigh more? Or is it because he played at "higher" levels of CAL before?

I don't think it's the fact that Alex has been playing longer or played in a higher tier of CAL. I think it's that Alex can read, interpret, and then post something coherent and useful to the conversation.

stealthlol wrote:

stile wrote:Just because kirk has played a couple years more than taylor makes his opinion weigh more? Or is it because he played at "higher" levels of CAL before?

I don't think it's the fact that Alex has been playing longer or played in a higher tier of CAL. I think it's that Alex can read, interpret, and then post something coherent and useful to the conversation.

Well when the word experience is used, I can only assume one was talking about their experience playing the game. Not their experience in reading, interpretation, and posting coherent replies.

stealthlol wrote: I don't think it's the fact that Alex has been playing longer or played in a higher tier of CAL. I think it's that Alex can read, interpret, and then post something coherent and useful to the conversation.

really? so posting my opinion on how his "no recoil" incident may have happened is posting something that isn't coherent or useful? i tried to point out what may or could have happened in that balcony clip.. is that not what this thread is about? .. alex basically told me i had to pretend i didn't like ceebz while watching the clip and THEN decide if ceebz was cheating or not.. sorry i'm not so quick to call someone out on cheating because i have a personal grudge with them.. then again i don't hold personal grudges over a video game so idk

also, are either of you even good heavies in dod? would you know the slightest thing about heavy glitches if you never even get to use a heavy? i bet both of you play with 100 fps as well.. smh

hXc wrote:i don't hold personal grudges over a video game

hXc wrote:

stealthlol wrote: I don't think it's the fact that Alex has been playing longer or played in a higher tier of CAL. I think it's that Alex can read, interpret, and then post something coherent and useful to the conversation.

really? so posting my opinion on how his "no recoil" incident may have happened is posting something that isn't coherent or useful? i tried to point out what may or could have happened in that balcony clip.. is that not what this thread is about? .. alex basically told me i had to pretend i didn't like ceebz while watching the clip and THEN decide if ceebz was cheating or not.. sorry i'm not so quick to call someone out on cheating because i have a personal grudge with them.. then again i don't hold personal grudges over a video game so idk

Your opinion could matter if you just made a coherent argument for your case. Saying he was sprinting which caused his gun to glitch and happened at the precise moment sounds like you're just pulling at thin air.

Also, about when Alex said you had to "pretend you didn't like ceebz" to make a judgement. I am guessing what he meant was that you needed to take an objective look and not see the video as somebody on your team. But that is just my perspective of what he said, and I could be wrong.

I play with 90 fps. I never get the no recoil glitch unless im lagging and its right after I RELOAD. never has sprinting or quickswitching created the "no recoil glitch."

Ceebz was neither lagging or did he reload in between shots in question. As seveN and beast have stated there is an abundance of visual evidence to show that he did not have the no recoil glitch.

acetamino wrote:Ceebz was neither lagging or did he reload in between shots in question. As seveN and beast have stated there is an abundance of visual evidence to show that he did not have the no recoil glitch.

beast just doesnt want to admit he gave ceebz his norecoil config

okay.. do either of you know what crouch running is? idk if anyone else even names it this, but i call it the tr4gik hop (first player i ever saw do it ), and it's basically crouch running in counter-strike.. you sprint and press crouch twice really quick and then sprint again.. it saves time gaining stamina back and is effective to get places quicker.. although it can be a bit glitchy.. THAT is why i'm considering sprinting being a cause for the glitch. i can't tell if he does it the second time he crouches.

p.s. crouch running is considered a glitch and was banned from counter-strike play for a bit because of it

non-coherent.. ok

hXc wrote:okay.. do either of you know what crouch running is? idk if anyone else even names it this, but i call it the tr4gik hop (first player i ever saw do it ), and it's basically crouch running in counter-strike.. you sprint and press crouch twice really quick and then sprint again.. it saves time gaining stamina back and is effective to get places quicker.. although it can be a bit glitchy.. THAT is why i'm considering sprinting being a cause for the glitch. i can't tell if he does it the second time he crouches.

p.s. crouch running is considered a glitch and was banned from counter-strike play for a bit because of it

non-coherent.. ok

fuck you son i started that gangster shit

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for those of you that have no idea what i'm talking about.. i did it in this video at 12-14 seconds

hXc wrote:okay.. do either of you know what crouch running is? idk if anyone else even names it this, but i call it the tr4gik hop (first player i ever saw do it ), and it's basically crouch running in counter-strike.. you sprint and press crouch twice really quick and then sprint again.. it saves time gaining stamina back and is effective to get places quicker.. although it can be a bit glitchy.. THAT is why i'm considering sprinting being a cause for the glitch. i can't tell if he does it the second time he crouches.

p.s. crouch running is considered a glitch and was banned from counter-strike play for a bit because of it

non-coherent.. ok

If you would have put this in the first post where you just said he sprinted, it would have been a lot easier. But I have do that crouch thing when leaving spawn and getting across maps. I don't think that would lead to a glitch that would change recoil. Maybe it's different in cs.

Yes, I have done that before, taylor. The no-recoil glitch includes the sound of the gunfire skipping, and that did not happen in the clip in question as Beast has stated. I'm lost as to what sprint crouching has to do with the clip in questions because spring crouching does not give you a no-recoil glitch.

acetamino wrote:Yes, I have done that before, taylor. The no-recoil glitch includes the sound of the gunfire skipping, and that did not happen in the clip in question as Beast has stated. I'm lost as to what sprint crouching has to do with the clip in questions because spring crouching does not give you a no-recoil glitch.

and how are you so sure that crouch running can't cause a glitch? really? if you're doing it right, (i can clearly tell ceebz knows how to from how he goes back into lower apts without jumping) then it could be possible..

I crouch hop to get over most ledges instead of jumping. It's never once caused a glitch like that. Plus, as everyone keeps saying, the sounds don't skip and that's one of the two key things in this glitch. No recoil, and no gun sounds.

Are you trying to say this is a different glitch of "no recoil" caused by sprinting?

the facts we have right now about the no-recoil glitch from my opinion: happens when lagging and right after reloading while lagging.

the obvious facts of the glitch: gun sounds skip and you dont know you have it until you start shooting so you should be intentionally correcting your recoil which ceebz doesnt even attempt to pull down.

to get back to my first sentence, are you saying there is another no recoil glitch, taylor that everyone else doesn't know about? I don't think the people who are suspicious of this clip are convinced of your argument of this being the same no recoil glitch considering you have yet to address the gun sounds

I didn't know scrolling your mouse wheel and taping crouch gave you no recoil.

stealthlol wrote:I crouch hop to get over most ledges instead of jumping. It's never once caused a glitch like that. Plus, as everyone keeps saying, the sounds don't skip and that's one of the two key things in this glitch. No recoil, and no gun sounds.

so you're close minded to the thought that maybe the glitch could happen a different way? it's a glitch. it's random. you don't know why or when it happens..

acetamino wrote:the facts we have right now about the no-recoil glitch from my opinion: happens when lagging and right after reloading while lagging.

how are these facts? and the term lag is very vague.. do you mean fps lag or internet lag? ..

also, i don't think you have any idea what i mean by crouch running.. so here

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