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I have been buying Optimum Nutrition Whey protein for quite some time now, usually in a five pound tub for around $50-$60 (after shipping costs). Lately I have been purchasing the ON Natural Oat product, made with whey concentrate, cane juice, and blended oats. I was just wondering if anyone knows any cost efficient, decent tasting, and natural protein powders to try?? I am not objected to taking soy or even vegetable proteins (even though some may argue they do not get into your system fast enough like whey), as long as the cost is around my price range and do not have an ingredients list a mile long.

I realize I could sit and look on amazon or BB.com, but our community has a good following in weightlifting and appreciate your opinions, except for Sean as your deadlifting form sucks. Just kidding!!

Syntha 6 is your best bet, taste is awesome also

I'm currently using Optimum Nutrition Whey as well but I switch the flavors up so it doesn't get old. I have used Gaspari Myofusion in the past and it is the same price for a 5lb tub. Try the cinnamon roll flavor.

What do you use for a pre-workout supp?

I just drink 2 litres of chocolate milk and let the results speak for themselves.

Syntha-6 is a good protein but the taste does come at a little bit of a cost. It does have a little bit higher sugar and calories. But overall as long as your watching your calories its good.

ON Gold Standard is my bread and butter.

I just recently bought Syntrax Matrix 5.0 in a 5lbs bag and Giant Sports Delicious Protein in a 2lbs tub.

The Syntrax Matrix is good tasting, breaks up well, and is cheap as hell. It's a mix of proteins which is nice; whey, egg, and cassein. The Giant Sports Delicious does not break down very well and it is a little gritty.

Honestly... I would stick with the ON Gold, its high in protein per a serving with a low carb content. It tastes delicious and it doesn't cost too much. I take about 8 scoops a day on lifting days and about 3-5 on off days.

Syntha-6 is over priced and I honestly don't like the other products the company makes.

Syntrax Matrix 5.0: http://www.supplementwarehouse.com/bran ... 4Aodx24AZg

seanality wrote:ON Gold Standard is my bread and butter.

I just recently bought Syntrax Matrix 5.0 in a 5lbs bag and Giant Sports Delicious Protein in a 2lbs tub.

The Syntrax Matrix is good tasting, breaks up well, and is cheap as hell. It's a mix of proteins which is nice; whey, egg, and cassein. The Giant Sports Delicious does not break down very well and it is a little gritty.

Honestly... I would stick with the ON Gold, its high in protein per a serving with a low carb content. It tastes delicious and it doesn't cost too much. I take about 8 scoops a day on lifting days and about 3-5 on off days.

Syntha-6 is over priced and I honestly don't like the other products the company makes.

Syntrax Matrix 5.0: http://www.supplementwarehouse.com/bran ... 4Aodx24AZg

When do you drink your shakes? 8 scoops seems like a lot of whey unless some of that is casein.

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sometimes they have some good deals. right now i'm drinking ANSI Hi-Flurry it's not bad. Everyone swears by ON gold standard though.

10lb will be cheaper, why not do that if youre already getting the 5?

Gold Standard > MuslcePharm combat powder > Syntha 6. Read a fucking label and stop listening to the idiots at GNC you sheep.

In response to Tom, I have never been one for supplements aside from taking a protein powder. I usually lift in the morning, so before that I will usually have my morning 3 to 4 cups of coffee and aim for good carbs like oatmeal.

In the past I have taken pre-workouts (I think I have tried two over a five year period) but never really felt any benefit, I truthfully think a lot of it is just placebo effect. But then again, I would consider myself more of a naturalist and think you can derive all the energy you need from your diet.

As for your question to Sean, eight scoops may seem like a lot, but if you add two scoops to your shakes (i.e 50g of protein), three or four shakes a day isn't that excessive. At least in my opinion.

And Ricky is right, I fucking can't stand going into GNC.

Ricky, you can't even compare gold standard and syntha 6. Gold standard is hands down one of the best whey protein supplements on the market, but syntha 6 is a blend of whey and slower digesting proteins. So therefor it is a lot better for a meal replacement. Also there has been recent studies that protein blends with slow and fast digesting proteins might actually be better for muscle growth then straight up whey. And yes it is higher in sugar and shit compared to gold standard but it still is a way better source of nutrients and calories than even a sandwich.

ao_ wrote:In response to Tom, I have never been one for supplements aside from taking a protein powder. I usually lift in the morning, so before that I will usually have my morning 3 to 4 cups of coffee and aim for good carbs like oatmeal.

In the past I have taken pre-workouts (I think I have tried two over a five year period) but never really felt any benefit, I truthfully think a lot of it is just placebo effect. But then again, I would consider myself more of a naturalist and think you can derive all the energy you need from your diet.

As for your question to Sean, eight scoops may seem like a lot, but if you add two scoops to your shakes (i.e 50g of protein), three or four shakes a day isn't that excessive. At least in my opinion.

And Ricky is right, I fucking can't stand going into GNC.

I guess I just need a pre-workout supp. because I work the graveyard shift and I'm usually dead tired after work. It never mattered if I ate or not so I take a BCAA mix with green tea extract for caffeine on the days I work. On my off days I don't take anything.

As for Sean, the 8 scoops doesn't seem like a lot. I've always read anywhere from 1.2-1.8 g/kg of body weight is how much protein you need in a day. The reason I asked when he took them is because whey protein only stays in your system for like 2 hours after digestion so if he drinks multiple shakes throughout the day then that is good, but if it is all right before/after a workout then the excess gets stored as fat. Casein breaks down over 6-8 hours which is why some people opt for that.

EDIT: Agreed that GNC is awful. I go to a local store call Sports Nutrition Center that is run by a married couple that are both pro bodybuilders.

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/product ... p-268.html

I use the Natural Pro Complex, but only because I have a close friend who's an ON rep, so I can get it at wholesale price. I highly recommend it if you can afford it. Other than that, I recommend the Natural ON Gold Standard to just about everyone who asks me.

The Stevia sweetened ones don't taste as good, but understand that if you are using a lot (like I typically do) you are pumping yourself full or Asuclfame Potassium and all sorts of other artificial shit. So, I stick to the Natural, and typically add things to it to help with the taste, whether it be cinnamon, almond/peanut butter, or bananas or something.

I typically do a 60 gram serving in a kale/veggie shake when I first wake up in the morning, and then another 60g serving right after lifting. The rest of my diet throughout the day is typically just plants and animals so I don't usually need another serving unless I feel like it post-evening workout or something.

Eric what do you include in your kale shake? Just out of curiosity, I am wondering how many calories and also protein someone your size takes in on a lifting day?

That Natural Pro Complex from Optimum does look like a very good blend but its a little too expensive for my taste.

ao_ wrote:Eric what do you include in your kale shake? Just out of curiosity, I am wondering how many calories and also protein someone your size takes in on a lifting day?

It varies, but the baseline is this:

4 large kale leafs
4 stalks of celery
1 cucumber (sliced)
1 chunk of ginger (about the size of a pager)
1 banana
1 cup Coconut Water
2 scoops ON Natural Pro Complex Vanilla

All thrown into a Blendtec Total Blender.

I also typically add a few cloves of raw garlic, but that can really take some getting used to, as it is quite strong and spicy. It sounds a whole lot grosser than it is. The sweetness of the banana/cocount water/whey really helps balance things out.

I typically have one of these right when I wake up, followed by a cup of matcha tea.

As far as protein goes, I typically have 2 60g servings of the pro complex a day, one right when I wake up, and one right after training. On non-training days, I'll typically have a second one at some point as a snack in the late afternoon.

I don't really keep track of my overall protein intake, so I imagine it varies a lot depending on how much I'm training. But, in addition to a minimum of the 120g I'm getting from the pro complex, I'd say I'm getting at least an additional 100g from my diet throughout the rest of the day on most days, mostly in the form of eggs, bacon, chicken breast, and grass fed beef.

This has been a great baseline for me, and I'm currently about 5'11 225 with 8-9% body fat.

Calories also varies a lot, but since I'm not trying to put on any mass right now, I'd say I'm only eating about 3000 calories a day. If I were training more diligently, I would shoot for 5000 calories. But, my BMR will be higher than most people because of the years of training I have behind me, I burn much more than most people.

MTS Nutrition Whey - this stuff is awesome.

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I just got ON Gold Standard Mocha Cappuccino. It is the most amazing tasting protein I've ever had.

1 chunk of ginger (about the size of a pager)

As you can see, Sears has been drinking this shake since at least before the late 90s.

knockout wrote:

1 chunk of ginger (about the size of a pager)

As you can see, Sears has been drinking this shake since at least before the late 90s.

+10 rep

stile wrote:I just got ON Gold Standard Mocha Cappuccino. It is the most amazing tasting protein I've ever had.

The only downside to the standard ON protein is that like most whey proteins it is absolutely loaded with acesulfame potassium and artificial flavors, which is why it tastes so good.

knockout wrote:

1 chunk of ginger (about the size of a pager)

As you can see, Sears has been drinking this shake since at least before the late 90s.

I would be more upset if it wasn't true.

Just stick with steroids

img wrote:Just stick with steroids

My police academy hired a physiologist/nutritionist/personal trainer that has worked with olympians, and he is currently scheduled to go with the next US bobsled team. He's also the person that instructs other academies trainers on what to do since he was hired by the State of Ohio to do so specifically for said police academies.

His instructions on supplements were very simple. If its not US made, watch the fuck out, they have been tested and found to have multiple steroids in them. He obviously followed up with that there are plenty of good supplements out there, but to just watch what we are putting into your body. He's seen olympians test positive for PEDs from simply drinking a beverage with caffeine.

Bunch of idiots in this thread.

alex kirk wrote:Bunch of idiots in this thread.

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Do you even get run over by cars, bro?

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cliffs:

Whey is garbage unless it's from a raw milk grass fed source that is cold processed (not pasteurized) which does not exist from what i can tell through my searching online.

in my humble opinion, whey is not as important or necessary. lift, go home, cook a meal with about 30-40g protein, 60 grams carbs, and a little fats.

you guys can google information and read up a little more on how whey protein isnt really a great idea and how poorly it is made. it is also known to have a lot of different heavy metals that are not good for us. i know ive mentioned the whole "whey is bad" thing before but i would definitely look into it since everyone posting in here is taking it.

costco just brought in a 2 pack of c4 preworkout for 38.99 -- not bad.

just bought a 10 lb bag of on gold and 4lb casein -- cost efficient. living in pennsylvania is fucking expensive!



YOU BUY YOUR PROTEIN, THEN YOU DO YOUR BUDGET

I take it that you are trying to appear yolked out and in great shape without actually being in shape.

Joey, are you actually citing a Youtube video by Dr. Mercola as credible?