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considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:22 pm
by eLy
ok First, you have a mouse and a mouse pad with no hacks in the backround but you hold your mouse against the mouse pad in a certain way to reduce recoil. Is this considered cheating :?:

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:31 pm
by Yaso
eLy wrote:ok First, you have a mouse and a mouse pad with no hacks in the backround but you hold your mouse against the mouse pad in a certain way to reduce recoil. Is this considered cheating :?:

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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:48 pm
by motive
wtf does this even mean

you mean like holding your mouse off the pad a little and angling it so the cursor moves down?

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:00 pm
by eLy
yea something like that

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:01 pm
by acetamino
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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:13 pm
by mike
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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:17 pm
by acetamino
no it's not, ely. I think most people define cheating as launching an .exe or editing sprites to make them clear.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:21 pm
by scorch-
acetamino wrote:no it's not, ely. I think most people define cheating as launching an .exe or editing sprites to make them clear.
or binding multiple actions to a single key.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:38 pm
by avenger
or cheating.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:33 pm
by theshizz
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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:25 pm
by Jakimo
fuck ive met gingers less pale then that kid.

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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:24 am
by Rambizzle
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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:25 am
by taylor
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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:19 pm
by Rambizzle
I don't know who the fuck nik is, but prepare you anus for the neg you phaggot.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:57 pm
by meekrab
scorch- wrote:
acetamino wrote:no it's not, ely. I think most people define cheating as launching an .exe or editing sprites to make them clear.
or binding multiple actions to a single key.
Wait so having timeleft bound to all my movement keys is cheating?

Apparently I've been cheating at dod since 2005. :shock:

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:15 pm
by hildebrand
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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:31 pm
by mare
Please contact FLATout//ceebz for all questions and concerns regarding recoil.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:01 pm
by nik
Rambizzle wrote:I don't know who the fuck nik is, but prepare you anus for the neg you phaggot.

seriously, this rep system is so flawed. I never used it before and I decided to give you +rep.
How the hell should I know that results in -rep . because my rep is negative ???
I just tried negging someone and he got +40 rep. How does this make sense?

ps. Good job on taking the time to hunt down my threads just to neg me. Sadface.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:11 pm
by Rambizzle
hmmmm. I didn't know about the said rep flaw, I offer you a truce.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:25 pm
by nik
I accept

I am sort of amazed by this thread. I have seen people who tweaked their. x and y axis sensitivity to control recoil and really felt this was sort of cheating. Although I would never use that myself incase I picked up a rifle or something. The thing I always wondered was (and this is focussed on euro dod). How did River (from u!, BC etc) control his recoil. If you watch movies of other hvys such as zoanth or nb it looks normal. But river looks totally different. Like norecoil. Cursor barely moves vertically.

What was his secret. Maybe also x y axis tweaking , or script (although many will say, no he did this on lan too) or some technique like you mentioned. Maybe you should explain it more because I don't really get it.
The idea that something like this would be a cheat seems far fetched. Most things related to hardware I don't consider cheats. Higher gamma on a monitor is acceptable I guess (because there is no standard). Dot on screen I would sort of consider cheating, although I wonder if it would be helpfull. Modifying your mouse in some weird way to control it may be a cheat but I never heard of such a thing. The way you handle your mouse? I don't see how that would be cheating.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:03 pm
by An1maL
not sure why you're singling out river, i don't agree that his recoil control was any better or worse than any other top heavy of the time....can't see anything but standard recoil control in his movies. like most swedes, he just had high sensitivity and a very steady hand. at the time we were using dodguard which doesn't allow you to change m_pitch or m_yaw so he definitely wasn't doing that

but yes, the OP's question beggars belief.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:25 pm
by nik
Not saying he cheats. But I still think it looks totally different than the others.
Watch that Nb ft river movie if you want to see it clearly. In a way I could relate to Nb, Zoanth etc. Not saying I'm on that level. But it felt like they atleast sort of played like me. River did look different. Just my opinion.

Do you know for certain that he used high sensitivity? I always assumed he used very low sensitivity with some giant mousepad. Only explanation I could come up with.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:39 pm
by eLy
nik wrote:I accept

I am sort of amazed by this thread. I have seen people who tweaked their. x and y axis sensitivity to control recoil and really felt this was sort of cheating. Although I would never use that myself incase I picked up a rifle or something. The thing I always wondered was (and this is focussed on euro dod). How did River (from u!, BC etc) control his recoil. If you watch movies of other hvys such as zoanth or nb it looks normal. But river looks totally different. Like norecoil. Cursor barely moves vertically.

What was his secret. Maybe also x y axis tweaking , or script (although many will say, no he did this on lan too) or some technique like you mentioned. Maybe you should explain it more because I don't really get it.
The idea that something like this would be a cheat seems far fetched. Most things related to hardware I don't consider cheats. Higher gamma on a monitor is acceptable I guess (because there is no standard). Dot on screen I would sort of consider cheating, although I wonder if it would be helpfull. Modifying your mouse in some weird way to control it may be a cheat but I never heard of such a thing. The way you handle your mouse? I don't see how that would be cheating.
As far as tweaking x y axis around would be cheating I know that but what im talking about is you playing the game moving the mouse on the surface being the mouse pad. Some people might lower their sensitivity to have for faster reaction time or more control of the crosshair when shooting with a heavy. When you move your mouse downward left to right to control recoil you might find it difficult to aim. Notice what motive is talking about:
motive wrote:wtf does this even mean

you mean like holding your mouse off the pad a little and angling it so the cursor moves down?
you gain more control of the rate of fire becoming easier to aim. The way you setup the angle of your mouse and mouse pad is to be comfortable to me but wouldnt that be cheating in a way?

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:55 pm
by An1maL
eLy wrote: As far as tweaking x y axis around would be cheating I know that but what im talking about is you playing the game moving the mouse on the surface being the mouse pad. Some people might lower their sensitivity to have for faster reaction time or more control of the crosshair when shooting with a heavy. When you move your mouse downward left to right to control recoil you might find it difficult to aim. Notice what motive is talking about:
motive wrote:wtf does this even mean

you mean like holding your mouse off the pad a little and angling it so the cursor moves down?
you gain more control of the rate of fire becoming easier to aim.

Ahaha this is fantastic :D perhaps it is your total lack of sentence structure and punctuation, but I still don't have a fucking clue what you mean. are you suggesting you have your mouse resting on the boundary between mousepad and desk? or that you literally raise the mouse off the pad in an upwards direction?

how are either of these suggestions practical and not a complete hindrance? in any case, on behalf of the dod community, I bequeath to you the express permission to proceed with these aiming techniques good sir =)

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:07 pm
by Rambizzle
An1maL wrote: I bequeath to you the express permission to proceed with these aiming techniques good sir =)

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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:24 am
by An1maL
love that this website seems to have devolved into posting old, overused & barely relevant memes and then high-fiving each other with your cocks. half the posts here could be achieved by a monkey mashing a keyboard while browsing funnyjunk.com.

your gotfrag ancestors are rolling in their graves!

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:00 am
by aLpha.cn-[tang]
An1maL wrote:love that this website seems to have devolved into posting old, overused & barely relevant memes and then high-fiving each other with your cocks. half the posts here could be achieved by a monkey mashing a keyboard while browsing funnyjunk.com.

your gotfrag ancestors are rolling in their graves!
This, sadly.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:01 am
by bewton
What if you propped your mousepad up at just the right angle, so when you dropped the mouse it slid at just the right speed to give you no-recoil...GENIUS!

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:35 am
by Cage
bewton wrote:What if you propped your mousepad up at just the right angle, so when you dropped the mouse it slid at just the right speed to give you no-recoil...GENIUS!
OH MY GOD! Why did I not think of this before?

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:01 pm
by ward
An1maL wrote:love that this website seems to have devolved into posting old, overused & barely relevant memes and then high-fiving each other with your cocks. half the posts here could be achieved by a monkey mashing a keyboard while browsing funnyjunk.com.

your gotfrag ancestors are rolling in their graves!

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You do realize that 1911 existed prior to Gotfrag right? We only started using Gotfrag to get the game more exposure.

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:24 pm
by eLy
can you delete this post? plz

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:43 pm
by CharlieGiteau
An1maL wrote:love that this website seems to have devolved into posting old, overused & barely relevant memes and then high-fiving each other with your cocks. half the posts here could be achieved by a monkey mashing a keyboard while browsing funnyjunk.com.
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Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:16 pm
by ao_
scorch- wrote:
acetamino wrote:no it's not, ely. I think most people define cheating as launching an .exe or editing sprites to make them clear.
or binding multiple actions to a single key.
Like my binding P to "gl_spriteblend 0; timeleft"

Re: considered cheating?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:52 pm
by scorch-
ao_ wrote:
scorch- wrote:
acetamino wrote:no it's not, ely. I think most people define cheating as launching an .exe or editing sprites to make them clear.
or binding multiple actions to a single key.
Like my binding P to "gl_spriteblend 0; timeleft"
Neither of those are actions, just like binding "+map; stopsound" are not actions.

Binding "+duck; wait; wait; wait;..." etc would be binding multiple actions or creating a custom script and binding a key to it.

There was an old one in counter-strike that would change the color of your xhair every time you fired, that was against the config rules as an example.