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CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:54 am
by MagneticSkull
Can you clarify this TPG News mention of CleanDoD being a requirement?
What is our Biggest Change?
I’d say the addition of the CleanDoD Anti-Cheat Client is the biggest change TPG is making. This will not only help the Admins and AC Admins to enforce TPG rules and catch those that are breaking them, but also help bring peace of mind to the community that more is being done to ensure fairness for everyone.
Is it required?

I'm all for an anti-cheat client, but disappointing it's Windows only since Valve is supporting Linux now.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:57 am
by defiance

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:24 pm
by Theworst
inb4

jules and tox post they also run on Linux.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:18 pm
by miller
this client is god awful.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:56 pm
by Hudson`
On the plus side, every keystroke you've made since Sunday night is now safely stored on a basement server in Belgrade. Can't beat that kind of free back-up service.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:39 pm
by miller
Hudson` wrote:On the plus side, every keystroke you've made since Sunday night is now safely stored on a basement server in Belgrade. Can't beat that kind of free back-up service.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:22 pm
by Shoolta
this seems like a silly thing, and we all know! a person notices when another's cheating

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:25 pm
by cassinoroyale
Shoolta wrote:this seems like a silly thing, and we all know! a person notices when another's cheating
exactly! like the way you used to cheat in 12mans and stopped after we told you we were watching you closely!

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:28 pm
by defiance
shoolta for head AC, since its so easy to tell if someone is cheating.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:51 pm
by Shoolta
cassinoroyale wrote:
Shoolta wrote:this seems like a silly thing, and we all know! a person notices when another's cheating
exactly! like the way you used to cheat in 12mans and stopped after we told you we were watching you closely!
wtf? I was cheating?

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:11 pm
by knockout
defiance wrote:shoolta for head AC, since its so easy to tell if someone is cheating.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:07 am
by cassinoroyale
Shoolta wrote:
cassinoroyale wrote:
Shoolta wrote:this seems like a silly thing, and we all know! a person notices when another's cheating
exactly! like the way you used to cheat in 12mans and stopped after we told you we were watching you closely!
wtf? I was cheating?
defiance is always watching, men

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:07 am
by Shoolta
cassinoroyale wrote:
Shoolta wrote:
cassinoroyale wrote: exactly! like the way you used to cheat in 12mans and stopped after we told you we were watching you closely!
wtf? I was cheating?
defiance is always watching, men
hahahaha defiace its bad :)

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:18 pm
by toxinatoR
Theworst wrote:inb4

jules and tox post they also run on Linux.
Used Linux on LAN.

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Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:48 pm
by hypnotik_
toxinatoR wrote:
Theworst wrote:inb4

jules and tox post they also run on Linux.
Used Linux on LAN.

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Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:37 am
by Joshinator
The following cvars MUST use default values

gl_monolights “0″
m_pitch “0.022000″
m_side “0.8″
m_yaw “0.022″
s_a3d “0″
Lightgamma “2.5″
I understand why Tin Bad wants us to use default for the first 5 cvars.

However I don't understand why he wants us to use default lightgamma. Unless I'm mistaken, most of us have different monitors in different lighting conditions. Being able to light up the game based upon monitor brightness is essential. Can someone explain this to me?

I'll admit, I'm pretty against CleanDoD already, as I really don't want to be mining bitcoin's for foreigners. I'll use it though. I just would really like it if we didn't suddenly outlaw cvars that pretty much make the game playable on my monitor.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:23 pm
by knockout
Joshinator wrote:
The following cvars MUST use default values

gl_monolights “0″
m_pitch “0.022000″
m_side “0.8″
m_yaw “0.022″
s_a3d “0″
Lightgamma “2.5″
I understand why Tin Bad wants us to use default for the first 5 cvars.

However I don't understand why he wants us to use default lightgamma. Unless I'm mistaken, most of us have different monitors in different lighting conditions. Being able to light up the game based upon monitor brightness is essential. Can someone explain this to me?

I'll admit, I'm pretty against CleanDoD already, as I really don't want to be mining bitcoin's for foreigners. I'll use it though. I just would really like it if we didn't suddenly outlaw cvars that pretty much make the game playable on my monitor.
Over the years, lightgamma has always been illegal. It was never allowed in LAN tournaments. This is nothing new, and changing your lightgamma value has put you at an unfair advantage over those who abide by the long lasting rules and don't change it. The only thing that's new is that it now can be enforced on the internet.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:32 pm
by ward
Lightgamma has nothing to do with monitor brightness settings. It fundamentally changes how the game engine treats light sources. This can cause balance issues on many different maps and as a result it has been banned from competitive play since the beginning.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:39 pm
by Joshinator
ward wrote:Lightgamma has nothing to do with monitor brightness settings. It fundamentally changes how the game engine treats light sources. This can cause balance issues on many different maps and as a result it has been banned from competitive play since the beginning.
Well poop. I guess my newness to this game is showing.

Joshinator signing out of this thread.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:13 pm
by calli
Unlike your desktop or monitor gamma, lightgamma makes ONLY darker places go lighter, for an example, pizza, butcher etc.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:37 pm
by Jakimo
wait wow, hold the horses in my ass.

at lan will we be able to gamma up for snipe scoping? is that legal?




if not.....

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Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:32 am
by acetamino
Jakimo wrote:at lan will we be able to gamma up for snipe scoping? is that legal?

it was illegal if memory serves correct. Ppl would play with the CPL gui and no extra gamma on the internet to practice. they always tagged up with that kte "moneyb-CPLgui"

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:35 am
by knockout
Jakimo wrote:wait wow, hold the horses in my ass.

at lan will we be able to gamma up for snipe scoping? is that legal?




if not.....

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I think the limit was 1.35 gamma and some other value for brightness on your video card settings.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:51 pm
by british
Aslong as all these cvars come stocked correctly with an unalterered version of DoD then im fine. I will not be checking to see if my values are correct cleaNDoD can do that.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:52 pm
by ward
knockout wrote:
Jakimo wrote:wait wow, hold the horses in my ass.

at lan will we be able to gamma up for snipe scoping? is that legal?




if not.....

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I think the limit was 1.35 gamma and some other value for brightness on your video card settings.
This.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:43 pm
by kevo
THIS THING DOESN'T WORK ON MAC?

WHY WOULD THIS NOT SUPPORT ALL OPERATING SYSTEMS THE GAME CAN RUN ON?

I'M NOT PROUD I'M USING A MAC. BUT, THIS IS ALL I HAVE THESE DAYS.

ARE YOU KIDDING?

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:04 pm
by Jstampz
kevo wrote:THIS THING DOESN'T WORK ON MAC?

WHY WOULD THIS NOT SUPPORT ALL OPERATING SYSTEMS THE GAME CAN RUN ON?

I'M NOT PROUD I'M USING A MAC. BUT, THIS IS ALL I HAVE THESE DAYS.

ARE YOU KIDDING?

I pretty sure there are more people who can't play this season due to cleanDOD. Do we HAVE to use it?

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:16 pm
by Yaso
Jstampz wrote: I pretty sure there are more people who can't play this season due to cleanDOD. Do we HAVE to use it?

Yes, we should HAVE to use it. At least that's how I feel about it.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:19 pm
by kevo
I'm not against using it. But, if you're going to implement a client like this, shouldn't it be supported on all platforms that are supported by the game?

I mean, this is the most half-assed thing I've ever seen.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:48 pm
by Yaso
kevo wrote:I'm not against using it. But, if you're going to implement a client like this, shouldn't it be supported on all platforms that are supported by the game?

I mean, this is the most half-assed thing I've ever seen.

How is it half-assed? There's what, maybe 5 people, at the very most, that even play on a Mac?

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:37 pm
by kevo
does that matter? if you're going to REQUIRE a client to be used in conjunction with a game that can be played on multiple operating systems, it seems necessary to have it compatible with them all.

it's not fair to exclude certain parties just because they happen to be using a less popular platform. the only reason I came back to DoD, which I've played since 2004, is because I realized steam is now supported on Mac (which I'm stuck with because I don't have room in my apartment for my desktop).

It's half-assed because I've seen MULTIPLE people bitch and complain about the poor quality of the client, and now that I have seen it's not even compatible across platforms, shows me that it's a burden that was not properly built to complement the game.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:11 pm
by Jstampz
Yaso wrote:
kevo wrote:I'm not against using it. But, if you're going to implement a client like this, shouldn't it be supported on all platforms that are supported by the game?

I mean, this is the most half-assed thing I've ever seen.

How is it half-assed? There's what, maybe 5 people, at the very most, that even play on a Mac?

There are well over 5 bud

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:10 am
by motive
i've had to reinstall steam several times now trying to get this piece of garbage to work, no such luck yet

also lost about 400gb of other games as a result

thanks for this

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:31 am
by joeledmunds
Haven't used it yet, but this doesn't sound very functional. I vote no client. Democracy.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:33 am
by twist
Not a single problem. Installed easily, functions like it should, doesn't lag my computer at all.
The irony that people are reinstalling steam to "get this to work" makes me chuckle.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:11 am
by `NG
Jstampz wrote:
kevo wrote:THIS THING DOESN'T WORK ON MAC?

WHY WOULD THIS NOT SUPPORT ALL OPERATING SYSTEMS THE GAME CAN RUN ON?

I'M NOT PROUD I'M USING A MAC. BUT, THIS IS ALL I HAVE THESE DAYS.

ARE YOU KIDDING?

I pretty sure there are more people who can't play this season due to cleanDOD. Do we HAVE to use it?
Well, I mean, YOU should.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:16 am
by kirk
joeledmunds wrote:Haven't used it yet, but this doesn't sound very functional. I vote no client. Democracy.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:20 am
by Jakimo
kevo wrote:does that matter? if you're going to REQUIRE a client to be used in conjunction with a game that can be played on multiple operating systems, it seems necessary to have it compatible with them all.

it's not fair to exclude certain parties just because they happen to be using a less popular platform. the only reason I came back to DoD, which I've played since 2004, is because I realized steam is now supported on Mac (which I'm stuck with because I don't have room in my apartment for my desktop).

It's half-assed because I've seen MULTIPLE people bitch and complain about the poor quality of the client, and now that I have seen it's not even compatible across platforms, shows me that it's a burden that was not properly built to complement the game.
i clicked twice and it worked. and im probably higher than most.

its a dead game we all take for granted. we must do our part in not letting her die. get over it. thanks

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:31 am
by kirk
Jakimo wrote:
kevo wrote:does that matter? if you're going to REQUIRE a client to be used in conjunction with a game that can be played on multiple operating systems, it seems necessary to have it compatible with them all.

it's not fair to exclude certain parties just because they happen to be using a less popular platform. the only reason I came back to DoD, which I've played since 2004, is because I realized steam is now supported on Mac (which I'm stuck with because I don't have room in my apartment for my desktop).

It's half-assed because I've seen MULTIPLE people bitch and complain about the poor quality of the client, and now that I have seen it's not even compatible across platforms, shows me that it's a burden that was not properly built to complement the game.
i clicked twice and it worked. and im probably higher than most.

its a dead game we all take for granted. we must do our part in not letting her die. get over it. thanks
Forgive me if I'm misinterpreting this exchange, but how is playing with a malfunctioning client doing anything to prevent the game from dying? I have not even tried the client yet but if it turns out to be as bad as some people are saying I would probably just save myself the hassle and not play this game in TPG anymore.

Lots of people have said that it's resulted in having to reinstall Steam and all their games, others have said it's terrible in-game, etc. If it is that bad and we are forced to play with it, there's a chance it could actually kill the game faster :shock:

But again, let me know if I'm missing something here.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:57 am
by motive
twist wrote:Not a single problem. Installed easily, functions like it should, doesn't lag my computer at all.
The irony that people are reinstalling steam to "get this to work" makes me chuckle.
not my fault this shitty program doesn't work if you have dod installed on a different hard drive than steam, dumb shit

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:59 pm
by joeledmunds
Jakimo wrote:
kevo wrote:does that matter? if you're going to REQUIRE a client to be used in conjunction with a game that can be played on multiple operating systems, it seems necessary to have it compatible with them all.

it's not fair to exclude certain parties just because they happen to be using a less popular platform. the only reason I came back to DoD, which I've played since 2004, is because I realized steam is now supported on Mac (which I'm stuck with because I don't have room in my apartment for my desktop).

It's half-assed because I've seen MULTIPLE people bitch and complain about the poor quality of the client, and now that I have seen it's not even compatible across platforms, shows me that it's a burden that was not properly built to complement the game.
i clicked twice and it worked. and im probably higher than most.

its a dead game we all take for granted. we must do our part in not letting her die. get over it. thanks
In that case, I'd say using a client that flips off everyone using a Mac should not be used. Kind of makes the game less accessible.

I've seen lots of clients come and go, and they've been mostly useless. No use cutting out any portion of the community so we can watch this thing catch one or two really stupid people.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:36 pm
by kevo
I just don't get what is wrong with screenshots and demos.

If someone's cheating it's pretty obvious. I would think there are enough people who have played this game long enough to be able to tell fairly confidently if a person is cheating.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:49 pm
by Jstampz
Everytime I open cleanDOD and get through it all to the end were you click "Start Report", it opens up a new window for cleanDOD and begins making me wait the 60 seconds to start call of duty 4?

It pretty much restarts itself and doesn't let me choose the game.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:36 pm
by k4b00m
Jstampz wrote:Everytime I open cleanDOD and get through it all to the end were you click "Start Report", it opens up a new window for cleanDOD and begins making me wait the 60 seconds to start call of duty 4?

It pretty much restarts itself and doesn't let me choose the game.

Are you on windows 7? Do you see a blue and yellow shield icon on the start report button? If so, save yourself time and click the start report button right away and it will restart the program again and count down from 60. It needs administrator priviledges.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:23 pm
by hypnotik_
don't forget to update

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:16 pm
by stealthlol
Fuck that client is awful. Do not intend to use it again.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:16 pm
by Jakimo
gg to gethit.

besides that, the match was horrible from my point of view. cleandod sucked major donkey dicks. i know i said some nice things about it but i take it all back.

lag spikes every 2 seconds, for up to 3 seconds at a time. multiple times i thought the server crashed or i dropped.
every time i quick switched i lag spiked each and every time.
every time an enemy became visible in my scope i lagged, once again for about a second.
i lag spiked so often that it felt like 40 fps, i couldnt even turn my mouse without lagging.
after raging some i switched to light, was easier with the constant lag spikes, but was just as intolerable.
take a watch and count to 3. enough time to fucking fap. imagine that every 2 seconds.

windows 7, i play on a laptop and i know about most of my problems. i didnt have this problem on night cup night, so ide like some help with this, if not, im not playing this season. that was intolerable. no point whatsoever of even trying.

borderlands 2, here i come.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:29 pm
by nunz
Jakimo wrote:gg to gethit.

besides that, the match was horrible from my point of view. cleandod sucked major donkey dicks. i know i said some nice things about it but i take it all back.

lag spikes every 2 seconds, for up to 3 seconds at a time. multiple times i thought the server crashed or i dropped.
every time i quick switched i lag spiked each and every time.
every time an enemy became visible in my scope i lagged, once again for about a second.
i lag spiked so often that it felt like 40 fps, i couldnt even turn my mouse without lagging.
after raging some i switched to light, was easier with the constant lag spikes, but was just as intolerable.
take a watch and count to 3. enough time to fucking fap. imagine that every 2 seconds.

windows 7, i play on a laptop and i know about most of my problems. i didnt have this problem on night cup night, so ide like some help with this, if not, im not playing this season. that was intolerable. no point whatsoever of even trying.

borderlands 2, here i come.
I have a fairly good pc and I still got some random lag spikes. sometimes it was ping and sometimes fps. I dunno if its the client or what but its never happened. it could have been the map, never had this probably on the old map either.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:35 pm
by DanJhonson
Jakimo wrote:Stuff
I had similar problems. Big lag spikes every time ANYONE died, and overall really shoddy performance. I really don't know why in the world it does this, but it sure is annoying.

Re: CleanDoD

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:36 pm
by Yaso
Not a single player on my team had any problems with the client.