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sloth wrote:

shoguNtw wrote:what a fuckin load of shit, been using the same config for years havent touched it. now apparently suspended

mike wrote:Still don't understand why he left iwa roster. It's only a 3 week suspension.. it's not the end of the world lol..

mike wrote:Still don't understand why he left iwa roster. It's only a 3 week suspension.. it's not the end of the world lol..

bullgooselooney wrote:

mike wrote:Still don't understand why he left iwa roster. It's only a 3 week suspension.. it's not the end of the world lol..

It could have been a lot worse. Ditch your team cause of 3 matches is sad. I bet people also think jump scripts are legal .

shoguNtw wrote:I'm sorry dod isn't the #1 priority in my life

shoguNtw wrote:

mike wrote:Still don't understand why he left iwa roster. It's only a 3 week suspension.. it's not the end of the world lol..

It's time to hang it up for a while, as much as I didn't like the suspension it's not the biggest reason I left. Working a lot nowadays and the time away from work I need to be spending with my son and little family I have, I'll be turning the team over to Austin/ Bewton for the remainder of this season

bullgooselooney wrote:

mike wrote:Still don't understand why he left iwa roster. It's only a 3 week suspension.. it's not the end of the world lol..

It could have been a lot worse. Ditch your team cause of 3 matches is sad. I bet people also think jump scripts are legal .

I'm sorry dod isn't the #1 priority in my life

nomis wrote:It's a god damn conspiracy, I say.

shoguNtw wrote:I've changed my mind already because my serious suspension was shortened to 2 weeks and because I believe we can win this season. Even though apparently some admins wanted me banned longer for my harmless bind. Let the rustling begin

kirk wrote:

shoguNtw wrote:I've changed my mind already because my serious suspension was shortened to 2 weeks and because I believe we can win this season. Even though apparently some admins wanted me banned longer for my harmless bind. Let the rustling begin

TPG corrupt.

BoxeR wrote:I had always used crouch bound to mwheel only for regaining stamina after running or for flutter peeking as a sniper. Was pretty hard when I found out it was illegal to get use to not using it.

shoguNtw wrote:You think I deserved longer? :'(

kirk wrote:

shoguNtw wrote:You think I deserved longer? :'(

Yeah bro, because what you did was horrific and gave you an insurmountable edge over every team you played. There's a special place in hell for people who bind crouch to their mousewheel.

shoguNtw wrote:I've changed my mind already because my serious suspension was shortened to 2 weeks and because I believe we can win this season. Even though apparently some admins wanted me banned longer for my harmless bind. Let the rustling begin

shoguNtw wrote:

BoxeR wrote:I had always used crouch bound to mwheel only for regaining stamina after running or for flutter peeking as a sniper. Was pretty hard when I found out it was illegal to get use to not using it.

gonna be super hard to get used to I've used it forever

k4b00m wrote:

shoguNtw wrote:

BoxeR wrote:I had always used crouch bound to mwheel only for regaining stamina after running or for flutter peeking as a sniper. Was pretty hard when I found out it was illegal to get use to not using it.

gonna be super hard to get used to I've used it forever

poor stile has this same issue. I made him remove it before our match and he was like fish out of water.

k4b00m wrote:I thought you knew. I don't know if it was mentioned in the news post but everyone else seemed to know it was illegal. shrugs. Good to hear you're sticking around!

crawtona wrote:

k4b00m wrote:I thought you knew. I don't know if it was mentioned in the news post but everyone else seemed to know it was illegal. shrugs. Good to hear you're sticking around!

I'm assuming we're going to make quickswitching illegal now as well? What with the unfair advantage one has by being able to bind a key via the GUI and all.

kirk wrote:

shoguNtw wrote:You think I deserved longer? :'(

Yeah bro, because what you did was horrific and gave you an insurmountable edge over every team you played. There's a special place in hell for people who bind crouch to their mousewheel.

k4b00m wrote:

crawtona wrote:

k4b00m wrote:I thought you knew. I don't know if it was mentioned in the news post but everyone else seemed to know it was illegal. shrugs. Good to hear you're sticking around!

I'm assuming we're going to make quickswitching illegal now as well? What with the unfair advantage one has by being able to bind a key via the GUI and all.

Most of the pubs already have that in their rules, it's only a matter of time before TPG follows suit.

stile wrote:

kirk wrote:

shoguNtw wrote:You think I deserved longer? :'(

Yeah bro, because what you did was horrific and gave you an insurmountable edge over every team you played. There's a special place in hell for people who bind crouch to their mousewheel.

are you being sarcastic? it actually makes a big difference

stile wrote:do you even write what you read before you type it

stile wrote:do you even write what you read before you type it

Hudson` wrote:

Wint0 wrote:Holy fuck. Are you people serious? I realize I havent played this game at all serious in the last 5 years, but wow. I could be COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT, did anyone that played invite when coL/x6 ran the show use mwheelup as a crouch bind?

I feel like back then I would have noticed it or had at least known about it? I realize there is also a progression of play from then to now. Seems to me that binding something KNOWN to break your hitbox to mousewheel(something a LOT of natural selection players did in the day, also frowned upon/banned) should be banned.

Not sure where the argument is in this thread, but fuck. wow. mind blown.

crawtona wrote:

k4b00m wrote:I thought you knew. I don't know if it was mentioned in the news post but everyone else seemed to know it was illegal. shrugs. Good to hear you're sticking around!

I'm assuming we're going to make quickswitching illegal now as well? What with the unfair advantage one has by being able to bind a key via the GUI and all.

shoguNtw wrote:I've changed my mind already because my serious suspension was shortened to 2 weeks and because I believe we can win this season. Even though apparently some admins wanted me banned longer for my harmless bind. Let the rustling begin

shoguNtw wrote:

mike wrote:Still don't understand why he left iwa roster. It's only a 3 week suspension.. it's not the end of the world lol..

It's time to hang it up for a while, as much as I didn't like the suspension it's not the biggest reason I left. Working a lot nowadays and the time away from work I need to be spending with my son and little family I have, I'll be turning the team over to Austin/ Bewton for the remainder of this season

bullgooselooney wrote:

mike wrote:Still don't understand why he left iwa roster. It's only a 3 week suspension.. it's not the end of the world lol..

It could have been a lot worse. Ditch your team cause of 3 matches is sad. I bet people also think jump scripts are legal .

I'm sorry dod isn't the #1 priority in my life

shoguNtw wrote:I've changed my mind already because my serious suspension was shortened to 2 weeks and because I believe we can win this season. Even though apparently some admins wanted me banned longer for my harmless bind. Let the rustling begin

akiro wrote:the natural selection thing is why everyone in the game never called cheats on anyone, just scripts. it was horrible and obnoxious to have to deal with the talentless shits who had to resort to that.




as far as comparing quickswitch to easy moding crouch hopping to the point it almost requires no thought is ridiculous. one offers an advantage, and the other is just THOUGHT to offer an advantage by idiots who run pubs.

i've long believed scripting is way more of an issue than actual cheats. wallhacking and bullshit like that can be detected through demo views. you can't find a script through a demo if the person knows how to script well. m_pitch, and other shit like that has been HUGE in dod forever. i mean who wouldnt want to make their bar/garand have barely any upwards recoil ?

it's not surprising cleanDOD is getting a shit load of objections.

akiro wrote:the natural selection thing is why everyone in the game never called cheats on anyone, just scripts. it was horrible and obnoxious to have to deal with the talentless shits who had to resort to that.


as far as comparing quickswitch to easy moding crouch hopping to the point it almost requires no thought is ridiculous. one offers an advantage, and the other is just THOUGHT to offer an advantage by idiots who run pubs.

i've long believed scripting is way more of an issue than actual cheats. wallhacking and bullshit like that can be detected through demo views. you can't find a script through a demo if the person knows how to script well. m_pitch, and other shit like that has been HUGE in dod forever. i mean who wouldnt want to make their bar/garand have barely any upwards recoil ?

it's not surprising cleanDOD is getting a shit load of objections.

knockout wrote: Quickswitching has never been illegal. Binding mousewheel to duck has always been illegal. That is a poor assumption.

crawtona wrote:It is not impossible in the least to use CTRL (or shift, or any other key on your keyboard) to achieve the same "advantage" that using mousewheel down/up does, it's just a bit more difficult/requires a bit more practice.

motive wrote:This has always been illegal, and for a good reason: you break a broken game's broken hitboxes even more when you do this shit. It's the same reason spamming hand-signals was banned in CAL/TPG, because your character is flailing around with fucked up hitboxes. That doesn't require any effort either, but it's illegal nonetheless.

There's lots of shit that's "built into the game" that you aren't allowed to do. Illegal spots, boosting, duck spamming, hand signal spamming, 16-bitting if you're a CS player at least... list goes on.

crawtona wrote:It is not impossible in the least to use CTRL (or shift, or any other key on your keyboard) to achieve the same "advantage" that using mousewheel down/up does, it's just a bit more difficult/requires a bit more practice.

Do you really think that you can press a key with your pinky/ring finger faster that the mousescroll event gets fired? I'll write the code for you to test that theory out and prove me wrong.

BoxeR wrote:I had always used crouch bound to mwheel only for regaining stamina after running or for flutter peeking as a sniper. Was pretty hard when I found out it was illegal to get use to not using it.

crawtona wrote:

motive wrote:This has always been illegal, and for a good reason: you break a broken game's broken hitboxes even more when you do this shit. It's the same reason spamming hand-signals was banned in CAL/TPG, because your character is flailing around with fucked up hitboxes. That doesn't require any effort either, but it's illegal nonetheless.

There's lots of shit that's "built into the game" that you aren't allowed to do. Illegal spots, boosting, duck spamming, hand signal spamming, 16-bitting if you're a CS player at least... list goes on.

crawtona wrote:It is not impossible in the least to use CTRL (or shift, or any other key on your keyboard) to achieve the same "advantage" that using mousewheel down/up does, it's just a bit more difficult/requires a bit more practice.

Do you really think that you can press a key with your pinky/ring finger faster that the mousescroll event gets fired? I'll write the code for you to test that theory out and prove me wrong.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it's being used to some great advantage. I've used it to occasionally hop around a corner (incredibly easy to do with CTRL as well) and also to sprint run more efficiently (sprint, crouch hop into a crouch, also go a tick faster down hill, both completely achievable without mousewheel). How would spamming it be used to an advantage? Seems that would fuck you up more than help you.

akiro wrote:But who knows maybe the issue is now people have to learn to adjust and are mad?

Just because it's illegal, doesn't mean it should be. Plus, I was being sarcastic to make a point. The point being, you are banning a mechanic of the game based on your belief that said mechanic should require a higher amount of difficulty to achieve or gives some unfair advantage (even though everybody is just as capable of using it). Just like pubs want you to mash your number keys instead of the quickswitch button.