1911 Beta

Has anyone used this mouse? I was looking for a replacement for my ms3.0 that recently started malfunctioning on me and came across this one. i have read some reviews and they are great for the most part, but wanted to check in here to see if anyone has an opinion on it. it is already ordered and should be here tomorrow so either way i will get to test it out myself and send it back if i don't like it.

what i am mostly concerned about is the way it tracks. have any of you had problems with the way this mouse tracks? Did you install the software or just plug and play? i had some bad experiences with an old razer mouse that was laser, not optical. it seemed to get buggy when i would twitch the mouse sideways on a snap shot. i ended up getting rid of it and going back to the optical ms3.0, but now i am ready to give laser a try again, especially since it is from a different company.

thoughts?

http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Sense ... op?ie=UTF8

I switch up between the sensei raw and zowie fk1 and have no issues with either. Sensei glides really nicely and I've never had a problem with the sensor skipping(I use a steelseries heavy, not sure how it reacts on a hard pad) zowie fk1 is all around a good mouse. Nice size, light and glides a lot smoother than the sensei.

thank you for the reply dustin. i appreciate it. i have been using it for a while tonight and it has really grown on me. i am having trouble using the software though. it doesn't seem to be opening up after i have installed it, and the first time it opened, i was not able to adjust the illumination.

Also, since you have one, you might be able to help me with this. I was under the impression that the ms3.0 was a 400 dpi mouse by default. when i put the raw to a 400 dpi or "cpi" as they call it, it seems waaay too slow. i have to use somewhere around 810-900 "cpi" in the program to get it close to the same feel as my old ms3.0. but, i would rather be able to get it exact by just matching the dpi settings from the ms3.0 and the raw.

i guess my question is the cpi on the raw a direct relation to the dpi on a ms3.0? aka, ms3.0 dpi 400 = sensei cpi 400? It doesn't seem like it.

Good question that I don't have an answer for~

I went from a normal sensei to the raw so I haven't any issues with the mouse feeling any different. My only guess it to adjust the CPI little by little to replicate the feel of your ms3.0 or set the CPI to 450 and adjust your ingame sensitivity to see if you can replicate it that way.

Or try 878 CPI, just a wild guess.

gL~

lol, thanks brah. glad someone is still alive around here.

what games are you playing right now?

Cs:go and Archage~

i'll play cs go if you need one, hit me up if i am online. although i am having trouble logging into my steam right now after my reformat. i used a REALLY old e-mail for my steam account (created 2002 or something) which i have not been able to access in years. now they emailed me some kind of special validation code to that email that i cannot check lol. it's really pissing me off.

sbcglobal.net was bought out by att and/or yahoo and i am not able to sign into it.

I'm sure Valve would reset the email if you could provide other details associated with it. As for mice, I haven't been able to use anything else but my MS 3.0. I tried a sensai and it just doesn't have the same feel (too small). I'm fairly certain that you can still get MS 3.0s online (I bought a few a couple years ago just in case).

ward wrote:I'm sure Valve would reset the email if you could provide other details associated with it. As for mice, I haven't been able to use anything else but my MS 3.0. I tried a sensai and it just doesn't have the same feel (too small). I'm fairly certain that you can still get MS 3.0s online (I bought a few a couple years ago just in case).

I tried to recover my original steam account about 2 years ago and valve wasn't helpful at all if you don't have access to the email. I had the same problem. I could give them the name, address, the credit card linked to it went, but with out the validation email they basically said I was sol.

edit changed steam to valve

Valve will restore access of your account if you open up a support ticket sending them proof that you own the account. CD keys scan (in case you still have them collecting dust in your cabinet) or proof of payment of recent games bought should be enough. On a side note, I have never been able to make the transition for the newer mice gadgets. I'm still stuck with 400dpi forever by using a MS intellimouse and its chinese copies variations 1.1 since 2006 or so. Before that I relied heavily in the best model ever created: Logitech MX300. Too bad the G5 of nowadays only emulates the format of the masterpiece. Seeing Roccat's mice make me wonder if they really worth the price.

well, good news. i was able to get att.com tele support to reset my password for my old email. i got into the account, got the special code, and instantly updated my steam contact email lol.

as far as the mouse ward, i actually like the way it feels a lot. it's different, but not so much that it makes me feel strange when i use it. it is a little bit lighter and i noticed it at first but after a few hours, i don't notice the size or weight difference. for me it is going to be about matching the dpi on this laser mouse (or cpi, whatever they want to call it) to the 400dpi ms3.0. setting the pci feature in the steelseries engine software to 400 is waaaay too slow so it is not an exact 1 for 1 ratio for optical dpi to laser cpi. i will play some games this weekend and do my best to match it up by feel i guess.

another question for you guys... is there a cpl gui for cs:go or something similar that i should be using? Or should i just open the game up after a fresh install, set my buttons, and go frag? also, any special config/console commands i should know about aside from your game play buttons and rates?

and thanks for all of the feedback guys.

I'm in a hurry to get to work so didn't have time to read if you decided on a mouse yet or no. I would suggest the steelseries sensei, it glides really well and feels really good in my hand since I play with both the claw and palm grip, if you're used to playing with bigger mice it feels a bit strange at first, I went from the razer deathadder to the sensei and it took me roughly a week or so to feel really comfortable with it in all sorts of aiming scenarios.
Just my two cents, I'm off to cast a concrete foundation in pooring rain..

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another question for you guys... is there a cpl gui for cs:go or something similar that i should be using? Or should i just open the game up after a fresh install, set my buttons, and go frag? also, any special config/console commands i should know about aside from your game play buttons and rates?

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You will need to disable mouseaccel, it's enabled by default.
m_customaccel 0
m_mouseaccel1 0
m_mouseaccel2 0
m_mousespeed 0

(think those are correct..)

Most Matchmaking servers runs on 64 tick(unless they've changed it) so these should be fine.
rate 80000 cl_cmdrate 64 cl_updaterate 64 cl_interp_ratio 2 fps_max 300.

Also you might wanna use buykeys cause the buymenu is fucking stupid, these are my buybinds, just put them in your autoexec.cfg


bind "kp_end" "buy deagle"
bind "kp_downarrow" "buy mp7"
bind "kp_pgdn" "buy m4a1;buy ak47"
bind "kp_leftarrow" "buy famas;buy galil"
bind "kp_5" "buy awp"
bind "kp_ins" "buy hegrenade"
bind "kp_del" "buy flashbang"
bind "kp_enter" "buy vesthelm"
bind "kp_plus" "buy vest"
bind "kp_minus" "buy defuser"
bind "kp_multiply" "buy smokegrenade"

twitch.tv/dyoung_tv


add me.

what is twitch.com?

btw the sensei is amazing. once i found a setting that felt like my old dpi, it started to feel great.

i also found this forum for you guys who are posting stuff about configs. i felt it was very useful for me.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =225142771

I've been considering getting a sensei raw because the scroll wheel on my IE3.0 likes to stick between scrolls and randomly click off. This is a problem because I have jump bound to mwheeldown :/

ward wrote:I've been considering getting a sensei raw because the scroll wheel on my IE3.0 likes to stick between scrolls and randomly click off. This is a problem because I have jump bound to mwheeldown :/

mine started having scroll wheel problems, but not that one. mine seemed to register a scroll at random times when i don't even touch the scroll wheel. one of the few main reasons i got the sensei.

coming from the same mouse as you, i can say that i really like the sensie. it is very easy and quick to get used to the shape of it. it is a little bit lighter in the hand, but i not only got used to it but now i prefer to have the lighter weight. i personally like the glossy finish on it with the frost version, but i ALMOST got the rubber black finish just because i feel like it would feel great to play with.

i would highly recommend trying a sensei raw ward

Is there any noticeable acceleration? I haven't heard good things about the xai/sensei because of that. Let me know.

sevEN wrote:what is twitch.com?

btw the sensei is amazing. once i found a setting that felt like my old dpi, it started to feel great.

i also found this forum for you guys who are posting stuff about configs. i felt it was very useful for me.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =225142771

That's my steam name n00b.

I've had 2 SteelSeries sensei's and both have suffered from the same problem of their sensors breaking after a little bit under a year of use. The DeathAdder 2013 is very good, but I really don't like the way the texture is because I feel like I can not grip it well enough. The SteelSeries Rival which I would recommend is a very close resemblance to the intelli 3.0, all my friends who have used an intelli all their pc gaming lives like the rival more now than the original, legendary 3.0.
Here is a picture I found of the DeathAdder 2013, the Intelli 3.0, and the SteelSeries Rival all on the same mousepad for size comparison.

Here is also a good list of mice

The SteelSeries Rival isn't on this list because it was released after this list was made.
The funny thing is though my favorite mice are the ones with built-in prediction, I really liked the SteelSeries Kinzu and Logitech mx518, I guess I'm used to prediction in mice

I ended up getting a Zowie FK1 due to its lack of acceleration and generally positive reviews. It's definitely smaller than my 3.0 but the reduction in weight seems to make it easier to aim. My only issue right now is my tendency to lift the mouse slightly when swiping. The low default lift off distance causes my crosshair to get stuck as I swipe. Luckily there's a few different settings for LOD so I'm going to fuck around with it some more.

thanks for everyones awesome feed back. so far i am loving the sensei raw. the shape is fantastic, the smooth texture and rubber sides feel great in my hand, and i have not had any problems with the sensor like i thought i would. i also found a cpi setting in the steel series program that feels just about the same as the ms3.0's dpi. i am loving it so far. i hope devin is wrong about it crapping out in less than a year though.

I have had my mouse for over a year with zero problems, what the fuck are you doing to your mice devin?

idk I didn't have a sensei raw, i had a sensei fnatic edition, and I guess months of rage inducing 12mans and me slamming my mouse to my desk caused it, just a guess though

Lol, then why leave a comment about the quality? No shit a mouse is gonna die if you bang it against the desk.

Honestly though the biggest criticisms I've heard about those mice is the acceleration that comes with the laser sensor. I actually have a Xai that I shelved because of it. But if it works for you, it shouldn't matter. They aren't that expensive if they do break.

Cage wrote:Lol, then why leave a comment about the quality? No shit a mouse is gonna die if you bang it against the desk.

I was kidding, I enjoyed the mouse up until the point where it would randomly connect and disconnect, did various firmware updates, and at first I thought it was a usp port problem, until I was using other mice, and it didn't happen for them.

I like the Kinzu v2 a lot more than the sensei/xai shape though, The kinzu v2 is a lot better than the kinzu v1 which had various problems with prediction/built-in acceleration.

devin- wrote:The DeathAdder 2013 is very good, but I really don't like the way the texture is because I feel like I can not grip it well enough.

I agree with you on the DeathAdder. The mouse feels very good in my hand and the weight is perfect for me, but don't like the texture on top of the mouse and often lose the grip of it. Too bad they can't make a mouse with the material on the side grips(some rubber I guess) :/.
And then this happened ~2-4 weeks ago


To answer your questions, no I don't smash the mouse in the desk. Neither have I drop it/dropped anything on it.

nhoj wrote:

devin- wrote:The DeathAdder 2013 is very good, but I really don't like the way the texture is because I feel like I can not grip it well enough.

I agree with you on the DeathAdder. The mouse feels very good in my hand and the weight is perfect for me, but don't like the texture on top of the mouse and often lose the grip of it. Too bad they can't make a mouse with the material on the side grips(some rubber I guess) :/.
And then this happened ~2-4 weeks ago


To answer your questions, no I don't smash the mouse in the desk. Neither have I drop it/dropped anything on it.

Yeah, I wonder if the DeathAdder black is any good. The sensor and shape is really amazing but the texture just makes it to where I can't even grip it without sliding, and the rubber sides are pointless because it is so thin, and it just peels so easily.
I've been using the Logitech MX518 which is discontinued and it's my favorite mouse.

sevEN wrote:i'll play cs go if you need one, hit me up if i am online. although i am having trouble logging into my steam right now after my reformat. i used a REALLY old e-mail for my steam account (created 2002 or something) which i have not been able to access in years. now they emailed me some kind of special validation code to that email that i cannot check lol. it's really pissing me off.

sbcglobal.net was bought out by att and/or yahoo and i am not able to sign into it.

You should be able to log into it through Yahoo. Just make sure your username has the @sbcglobal.net - I'm fairly certain all the e-mails assigned to that domain were preserved.

edit: kept reading, saw you got fixed. gj

knockout wrote:

sevEN wrote:i'll play cs go if you need one, hit me up if i am online. although i am having trouble logging into my steam right now after my reformat. i used a REALLY old e-mail for my steam account (created 2002 or something) which i have not been able to access in years. now they emailed me some kind of special validation code to that email that i cannot check lol. it's really pissing me off.

sbcglobal.net was bought out by att and/or yahoo and i am not able to sign into it.

You should be able to log into it through Yahoo. Just make sure your username has the @sbcglobal.net - I'm fairly certain all the e-mails assigned to that domain were preserved.

edit: kept reading, saw you got fixed. gj

lol i ended up getting on the phone with the AT&T call center in india. they had the info for my acct but made me dig up a super old statement from when we had service from them from 1998 to get some kind of account code that would "verify me". i found it and he re-set my pw and i was able to get into my old email, and therefore my steam account. i then changed all my passwords and contact info to current accounts. so i am good to go and have been playing go for a couple weeks now quite a bit. it is growing on me but still frustrates the hell out of me quite often. but i am learning the spray more every time i play

I've been playing CS:GO since it was released in closed beta and I still can't get used to it. The source engine just feels so tight and not loose and fluid like the goldsrc engine. I can't even AWP/sniped like I did in 1.6/dod because of how the models ice skate and fly out extremely fast.