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sevEN wrote:

Beast wrote:iwa with you on the team 2-2. iwa with me on the team making it to the finals yeah you're not looking to good.

im confused.... first season i played on iwa, we went undefeated 13-0.. beating thunder twice including the finals match.



see you next year dpk

aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote:

ward wrote:Well considering everyone nowadays camp corners like it's their fucking job, there's nothing you can do BUT prefire.

This.

rehpyc wrote: LoL. What's the difference between using an old computer and different Steam account compared to your regular computer and Steam account?

Oh NoeS ThIS FiLTh bE TaiNTin MuH AccOUntz0r

And I don't get how people this day and age still allow themselves to get suspended for a lack of screenshots. Using Photoshop or GIMP to produce ones from a recorded demo is easy, especially with the current staff probably not really knowing how to verify where/how the image was produced.

Sp3c-BuLLeT wrote:I was never a fan of the "gray hat" approach where you have to be a cheater to catch a cheater. I always took a more conservative "white hat" approach myself. When I did feel the need to use wallhacks to watch someone's demos to see what they were looking at I used an old computer of mine and a different steam account. I did not want that filth on my primary machine or my primary Steam account.

I personally have no respect for anyone that cheats. Match, scrim, pub, or otherwise.

lolinus wrote:Lol missing endround screenshots gets you banned.

ryanemo wrote:regularly cheated in scrims/12mans(but never a match

tenks wrote:

Sp3c-BuLLeT wrote: did not want that filth on my primary machine or my primary Steam account....no respect for anyone that cheats. Match, scrim, pub, or otherwise.

Sp3c-BuLLeT wrote:
I was never a fan of the "gray hat" approach where you have to be a cheater to catch a cheater. I always took a more conservative "white hat" approach myself. When I did feel the need to use wallhacks to watch someone's demos to see what they were looking at I used an old computer of mine and a different steam account. I did not want that filth on my primary machine or my primary Steam account.

I personally have no respect for anyone that cheats. Match, scrim, pub, or otherwise.

ward wrote:

stealthlol wrote: Who is butthurt? I wasn't banned. I know brandon doesn't give a shit he was banned. So that leaves...

I would think someone who was "innocent" and banned unfairly might give a shit. Guess I'm wrong!

ryanemo wrote:just because i took a jab at the AC doesn't mean it was a jab at the entire AC just majority. and to say you don't randomly pull my demos, ask defiance about that. also, pat never "had to beg" me to watch any demos, he simply would msg me on Steam telling me about a new demo that was posted.

and to think me 'boasting' about being a seasoned cheater is to brag or something im not sure what you're getting at, but even as an AC i posted in one of the dispute threads how being a cheater before really helps me notice little things that can prove someones cheating. whether you're going to admit it or not, at least when i was ac, i noticed a lot of the other admins did have chubbs for certain people on insisting they cheat constantly. i understand all of the ac admins have their own methods and shit they look for and i respect that, this is just my 2 cents.

stealthlol wrote: Who is butthurt? I wasn't banned. I know brandon doesn't give a shit he was banned. So that leaves...

stealthlol wrote:

Ken wrote: We all have different ways of looking at demos to bring to the table, which defeats the bias that everyone seems to think we have with everyone we ban.

Insert dpk tag. Argument void.

ward wrote:Well considering everyone nowadays camp corners like it's their fucking job, there's nothing you can do BUT prefire.

ward wrote:

stealthlol wrote:

Ken wrote: We all have different ways of looking at demos to bring to the table, which defeats the bias that everyone seems to think we have with everyone we ban.

Insert dpk tag. Argument void.

Insert butthurt. All arguments void.

stealthlol wrote:

Ken wrote: We all have different ways of looking at demos to bring to the table, which defeats the bias that everyone seems to think we have with everyone we ban.

Insert dpk tag. Argument void.

Ken wrote: We all have different ways of looking at demos to bring to the table, which defeats the bias that everyone seems to think we have with everyone we ban.

Ken wrote:

ryanemo wrote:1st off, i've never had an issue with beast so to point out this 2nd thing kind of hurts

which leads me to 2nd off...

That being said if it was ryanemo, jules, or some other crazy dude playing the admins would all be high fiving these dudes in vent talking about how good they are.

f u lol i either get disputed or my demos randomly pulled pretty much every match from half of AC having a chubby to get me banned it seems.

and now my 3rd point, im not sure how confident i am in our current TPG-ac. when I was an AC admin (as we are all well aware, i admit and have admitted that im a very seasoned cheater and back before i started playing with aPro in CEVO i regularly cheated in scrims/12mans(but never a match and since then haven't in a while)) i noticed that majority of the AC never took much into mind when watching demos and seems it'd always end up being myself (and possibly 1 other) vouching for a guy every other AC is convinced was cheating when from my POV whoever it woulda been wasn't showing any signs of cheating what so ever other then just playing well.

beast if you wanna send me your demos ive got no problem watching them to back you up even more even though it won't matter most likely... but in my opinion this could just be an issue of some TPG-ac still being used to the older game play, or just not really knowing what to look for in demos when it comes to someone cheating.

sorry to any of the ac this prolly offended but after being an AC with most of you, id say that the minute someone prefires someone you're convinced they're cheating and have enough evidence.

You're insanely full of yourself, Ryan. I don't know what the jab at the AC team was for, but that was pretty unneeded. Your demos aren't "randomly pulled". We review your demos when you are disputed, so if you get disputed every week that's not our fault. Another thing is you make the statement "I am a seasoned cheater". Don't you think making boasts like that puts you out there as someone who is capable of cheating and making it very hard for others to notice? Don't you think that means maybe AC will actually take more time to watch you demos? I am trying to understand how you think that you are any different between you or someone like Caliban. We are going to watch your demos the same way we would watch his. We are going to take the same amount of time with every dispute that comes our way. I speak for all the AC currently on staff to say that we all (and you know this to be true) sit down and talk out every dispute we cant all agree on. Stop putting yourself on a pedestal. Lets also talk about how Pat had to practically bug you every second of the day to watch a demo because you were "so busy", yet now you have time to watch this demo just to prove the rest of us wrong? I've never had an issue with you, Ryan, and I have never witch hunted you when it comes to your shady past and your skill, but don't start talking shit about the rest of the AC staff like you actually give a damn about the job we do. You're being a hypocrite.

I am highly confident in the staff we have for AC. We all have different ways of looking at demos to bring to the table, which defeats the bias that everyone seems to think we have with everyone we ban. We have caught more legitimate cheaters these past seasons than with the old AC staff. You can think whatever you want, but we know what we are doing. Brandon knows I don't have any hate or want to go out of my way to ban him. We were given a demo, we watched it, we made a judgement. Don't understand why people cant move on from that.

ryanemo wrote:1st off, i've never had an issue with beast so to point out this 2nd thing kind of hurts

which leads me to 2nd off...

That being said if it was ryanemo, jules, or some other crazy dude playing the admins would all be high fiving these dudes in vent talking about how good they are.

f u lol i either get disputed or my demos randomly pulled pretty much every match from half of AC having a chubby to get me banned it seems.

and now my 3rd point, im not sure how confident i am in our current TPG-ac. when I was an AC admin (as we are all well aware, i admit and have admitted that im a very seasoned cheater and back before i started playing with aPro in CEVO i regularly cheated in scrims/12mans(but never a match and since then haven't in a while)) i noticed that majority of the AC never took much into mind when watching demos and seems it'd always end up being myself (and possibly 1 other) vouching for a guy every other AC is convinced was cheating when from my POV whoever it woulda been wasn't showing any signs of cheating what so ever other then just playing well.

beast if you wanna send me your demos ive got no problem watching them to back you up even more even though it won't matter most likely... but in my opinion this could just be an issue of some TPG-ac still being used to the older game play, or just not really knowing what to look for in demos when it comes to someone cheating.

sorry to any of the ac this prolly offended but after being an AC with most of you, id say that the minute someone prefires someone you're convinced they're cheating and have enough evidence.

That being said if it was ryanemo, jules, or some other crazy dude playing the admins would all be high fiving these dudes in vent talking about how good they are.

OLEARY wrote:

ward wrote:

As others have pointed out, beas was also banned for what some might see as a similar reason. So is only one of them a "sunvirgin"?

This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

Do you live in Jacksonville area? I am stationed down here. I remember hearing all about this a few months ago, too. Ridiculous.

k4b00m wrote:

Airnick15 wrote:So I just killed "The Beast" in Witcher and thought to come back and check this thread. Where the demos?!

FUCK THE DEMOS!

ward wrote:

As others have pointed out, beas was also banned for what some might see as a similar reason. So is only one of them a "sunvirgin"?

This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

ward wrote:

stealthlol wrote:

ward wrote:This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

...what? Plenty of people I know have cheated. I'm admitting it now. Your argument is void.

I am friends with Andy sheen after all.

So +1 notches to your bedpost?

Daeo wrote:

motive wrote:Why can't we make uploading demos and screenshots to a public repository mandatory?

Dead serious.

i would agree, even if the peers have no say in the banning/unbanning of a player. you would be able to watch anyones match demo's at any time. i think it would help to understand how certain people play. I'd learn every spot you sit in

stealthlol wrote:

ward wrote:

As others have pointed out, beas was also banned for what some might see as a similar reason. So is only one of them a "sunvirgin"?

This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

...what? Plenty of people I know have cheated. I'm admitting it now. Your argument is void.

I am friends with Andy sheen after all.

Airnick15 wrote:So I just killed "The Beast" in Witcher and thought to come back and check this thread. Where the demos?!

motive wrote:Why can't we make uploading demos and screenshots to a public repository mandatory?

Dead serious.

motive wrote:Why can't we make uploading demos and screenshots to a public repository mandatory?

Dead serious.

aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote:

stealthlol wrote:

ward wrote:This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

...what? Plenty of people I know have cheated. I'm admitting it now. Your argument is void.

I am friends with Andy sheen after all.

How is it that I'm the only one that comes to mind, jerk.

stealthlol wrote:

ward wrote:

As others have pointed out, beas was also banned for what some might see as a similar reason. So is only one of them a "sunvirgin"?

This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

...what? Plenty of people I know have cheated. I'm admitting it now. Your argument is void.

I am friends with Andy sheen after all.

ward wrote:

As others have pointed out, beas was also banned for what some might see as a similar reason. So is only one of them a "sunvirgin"?

This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

Chuck Foo wrote:Obviously the admins are way overpaid! Oh wait, you say they volunteer their time to set up the leagues, view multiple demos on a weekly basis and deal with all the bullshit. Yeah they are CORRUPT bastards lets fire the whole crew.

ward wrote:

As others have pointed out, beas was also banned for what some might see as a similar reason. So is only one of them a "sunvirgin"?

This reminds me of a couple months ago when two Marines down here got back to their house at like 2am in the morning to find two dudes robbing the place. The dudes had a shotgun and one of the Marines was able to get a hold of it and kill both of them. Cops say self defense, and the dudes family / friends keep saying its a conspiracy and that their beloved would never have done such things and that these Marines are murderers. Another separate investigation incurs just because of these retards and in the end it is once again deemed self defense.

TL/DR: Just because you are butt buddies with someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of cheating.

As others have pointed out, beas was also banned for what some might see as a similar reason. So is only one of them a "sunvirgin"?

scorch- wrote:You have to be very obviously cheating for TPG to ban you.

scorch- wrote:You have to be very obviously cheating for TPG to ban you. It's not like they go around banning a lot of people. I'm pretty sure there are a several people that would have been banned back when CAL actually made tough cheating decisions and rules existed about config/scripts. These days TPG is only going to ban the people they know 100% are wallhacking/aimbotting/norecoiling. or crashing vent servers.

ward wrote:Look at this sunvirgin thinking he's better than dan LOL. Let's just ignore the fact that you've been banned too fatty

scorch- wrote:I'll create a new identity/steamid and try to get on a tpg-open team, be a real asshole to everyone, and see how long it takes to get banned from TPG.