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by **Airnick15** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:23 am

mogers wrote:
Airnick15 wrote:The obvious solution is to realize that this country is too dumb to ever make voting truly relevant. As such, I vote for the lesser of two evils and mourn the increasing stupidity of the citizens of this country.
Says the guy wearing a Hawaiian shirt.

Yes, I wear that shirt daily!

by **Miller`** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:36 pm

scorch- wrote:
aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote: Amen.
I normally find her to just be really annoying, but that was well done

Agreed.

by **SKiNnTo** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Wow mare, wow. This lady is fucking nuts!

by **seanality** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:12 pm

JLin wrote:[youtube]72YG2DhWHmE[/youtube]

amazing.

by **mogers** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:20 pm

Airnick15 wrote:The obvious solution is to realize that this country is too dumb to ever make voting truly relevant. As such, I vote for the lesser of two evils and mourn the increasing stupidity of the citizens of this country.

Says the guy wearing a Hawaiian shirt.

by **scorch-** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:54 pm

aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote: Amen.

I normally find her to just be really annoying, but that was well done

by **aLpha.cn-[tang]** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:26 pm

[youtube]SVwXA7sHUlE[/youtube]

Amen.

by **aLpha.cn-[tang]** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:55 pm

CharlieGiteau wrote:Damn, she mad.

Damn, she REEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAL mad.

by **Swiss** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:02 pm

toxinatoR wrote:
Rambizzle wrote:

i was expecting some fried chicken to show up and make her smile

by **JLin** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:37 am

[youtube]72YG2DhWHmE[/youtube]

by **JLin** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:36 am

akiro wrote:If i have to hear or read one more fucking god junkie bitch about "calling yourself a christian and yet voting for obama" im gonna fucking rape jesus. For fucks sake, seperation of church and state, get your fucking bible off the constitution. Its more than one man that makes decisions, the entire government is fucking broken, it doesnt matter who won nothing would or will change without people suddenly learning to think without bias, which obviously will never happen.

Have your opinions but don't say them if they are retarded.

by **CharlieGiteau** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:23 am

Damn, she mad.

by **mare** » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:23 am

Voting for this lady in 4 years.

[youtube]wLoqti0lzAw&feature=g-logo-xit[/youtube]

'Merica!

by **toxinatoR** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:43 pm

Rambizzle wrote:

by **milo** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:41 pm

taylu_b wrote:

In biggie we trust.

by **taylor** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:36 pm

by **Jakimo** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:53 pm

by **Quikey** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:05 am

moosh wrote:
scorch- wrote:
wintehs wrote:Also responses like these http://imgur.com/a/WPCit really drive me nuts
I'm a big fan of Tammy. She looks like a hard worker.
Also the guy who's too sad to tweet.
It scares me how disconnected those people are from the way the WORLD is evolving. If Romney won i'd be disheartened that a cultist is now President, but i wouldn't spout retarded mccarthy era propaganda.

And all this Hitler shit makes me laugh just because of their idiocy on right/left. Stalin, maybe. Hitler, lol.

LoL! In Soviet America, road forks you!

by **scorch-** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:56 am

wintehs wrote:Also responses like these http://imgur.com/a/WPCit really drive me nuts

I'm a big fan of Tammy. She looks like a hard worker.
Also the guy who's too sad to tweet.

by **akiro** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:45 am

If i have to hear or read one more fucking god junkie bitch about "calling yourself a christian and yet voting for obama" im gonna fucking rape jesus. For fucks sake, seperation of church and state, get your fucking bible off the constitution. Its more than one man that makes decisions, the entire government is fucking broken, it doesnt matter who won nothing would or will change without people suddenly learning to think without bias, which obviously will never happen.

Have your opinions but don't say them if they are retarded.

by **hildebrand** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:17 am

deal with it.

by **rehpyc** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:55 am

[youtube]4JJ9Fg0VctI[/youtube]

by **Rambizzle** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:36 am

lol silly Christians are furious.

by **wintehs** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:35 am

For me the worst part about the election was seeing the amount of "fucking copenhagen bombs" all over my Facebook feed. Granted this is northern WI, where most kids think they're from Alabama or Mississippi, but still, really made me sad seeing that.

Also responses like these http://imgur.com/a/WPCit really drive me nuts

by **The Bear** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:43 am

[youtube]iZVgQQuJ9_U[/youtube]

by **CharlieGiteau** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:58 pm

Well, the chance of me ever getting my railroad job back went down DRASTICALLY. No coal, no job.

by **Nicholson** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:36 pm

by **aLpha.cn-[tang]** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:30 pm

gg. Obama should move the White House to Utah and bm Romney.

by **Swiss** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:46 pm

not surprised that a thread with the possibility of an intellectual conversion has brought alex out from the woodworks

by **kirk** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:33 pm

by **cK-** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:33 pm

by **mike** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:28 pm

CONSTITUTION PARTYYY!

by **scorch-** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:49 pm

See the problem is that the effect of your vote is non-zero, but insignificant. How do you effect change in a political system? You persuade other people to vote one way or the other. How do you do that? Media coverage, advertisements, in some local issues with good old fashioned door-to-door campaigning, but in the end it all comes down to time and money. If you want to effect change, you need to gather huge groups of people to vote the way you want them to vote and in order to do that you need to become the problem. You need to become the super PACs and lobbying groups that are able to spend billions of dollars on getting your message to the people who are too busy / ignorant to find the information unless it's forced in front of their eyes and yet still vote.

The number of politically apathetic people who vote in America will always be greater than any other plurality in a popular vote.

edit: I'm not saying you shouldn't vote, just that I 100% understand why people choose not to vote.

by **lowcarb** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:41 pm

by **dogfire** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:03 pm

SKiNnTo wrote:I don't give a damn who you vote for, just go vote! That's your right to complain for the next 4 years! Git-R-Done!!!!!!

Got-R-Did there for ya skinny

by **Quikey** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:52 pm

aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote:
scorch- wrote:
aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote:So the obvious solution is to not vote? Go inform yourselves instead of being lazy/apathetic.
I wonder how many million man-hours were wasted attempting to vote this weekend in Florida.

I wonder why people bother voting for the president when the outcome in their state is already decided by the masses with no clue what is going on.

I wonder about a lot of things, but never why someone chooses to not vote.

Accept that you are unable to effect political change in this country and stop wasting time and energy on the idea.
I understand that, with the electoral college system, it's plenty logical/rational to decide that voting can't effect political change unless you're in a swing state--for all intents and purposes, a Republican vote probably doesn't matter in California. There are more things on the ballot than just the presidential election, things that affect local communities, in which your vote does matter.

scorch- wrote:Accept that you are unable to effect political change in this country and stop wasting time and energy on the idea.
Doing nothing ensures there is never change.

For people that don't think a vote really matters (and I'm quoting you just to use your Republican vote in California example), if you don't vote based on that logic, then how will you ever even things up between Republicans and Democrats in that state? How will you ever know if you're getting closer to evening things up and becoming a "Swing State"? I know California is a loooong way from that, but just using it because it was mentioned before.

If you feel your vote really doesn't mean anything, that's fine. But I still don't understand why you wouldn't want to at least throw it out there on the 1/100000000000 chance that it does? I don't know if you own a home Scorch-, but if a new levy comes down that would raise property taxes, when it's for a cause or program you don't agree with, wouldn't you want to do what you could to stop from having your taxes raised?

tl;dnr: Voting is cool! I'm an idealistic jackass! Go Vote!

by **Airnick15** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:48 pm

aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote:
Sacred wrote:
Airnick15 wrote:too lazy to upload george carlin's thoughts, but yeah.

haha thats all ive been thinking about with all this election shit.

“I don't vote. Two reasons. First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The shit they shovel around every 4 years *pfff* doesn't mean a fucking thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.” -- George Carlin
So the obvious solution is to not vote? Go inform yourselves instead of being lazy/apathetic.

The obvious solution is to realize that this country is too dumb to ever make voting truly relevant. As such, I vote for the lesser of two evils and mourn the increasing stupidity of the citizens of this country.

by **aLpha.cn-[tang]** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:39 pm

scorch- wrote:
aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote:So the obvious solution is to not vote? Go inform yourselves instead of being lazy/apathetic.
I wonder how many million man-hours were wasted attempting to vote this weekend in Florida.

I wonder why people bother voting for the president when the outcome in their state is already decided by the masses with no clue what is going on.

I wonder about a lot of things, but never why someone chooses to not vote.

Accept that you are unable to effect political change in this country and stop wasting time and energy on the idea.

I understand that, with the electoral college system, it's plenty logical/rational to decide that voting can't effect political change unless you're in a swing state--for all intents and purposes, a Republican vote probably doesn't matter in California. There are more things on the ballot than just the presidential election, things that affect local communities, in which your vote does matter.

scorch- wrote:Accept that you are unable to effect political change in this country and stop wasting time and energy on the idea.

Doing nothing ensures there is never change.

by **scorch-** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:30 pm

aLpha.cn-[tang] wrote:So the obvious solution is to not vote? Go inform yourselves instead of being lazy/apathetic.

I wonder how many million man-hours were wasted attempting to vote this weekend in Florida.

I wonder why people bother voting for the president when the outcome in their state is already decided by the masses with no clue what is going on.

I wonder about a lot of things, but never why someone chooses to not vote.

Accept that you are unable to effect political change in this country and stop wasting time and energy on the idea.

by **Rambizzle** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:19 pm

by **aLpha.cn-[tang]** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:33 pm

Sacred wrote:
Airnick15 wrote:too lazy to upload george carlin's thoughts, but yeah.

haha thats all ive been thinking about with all this election shit.

“I don't vote. Two reasons. First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The shit they shovel around every 4 years *pfff* doesn't mean a fucking thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.” -- George Carlin

So the obvious solution is to not vote? Go inform yourselves instead of being lazy/apathetic.

by **hildebrand** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:27 pm

anyone watch letterman and gervais last night? shit was hilarious. looks like those two are pretty good friends.

by **knockout** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:24 pm

let's just face it. we're all feeling like victims here. we are the 47%. #occupyDC

by **scorch-** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:11 pm

Swiss wrote:So are Chuck and Corey shoutcasting tonight?

(I guess Ken could as well, serving as a very partisan Obama black supporter)

I think everyone that uses these forums is part of the 47% of America that can't be helped. No one can force us to care about our lives or take responsibility for our futures.

by **Swiss** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:37 am

So are Chuck and Corey shoutcasting tonight?

(I guess Ken could as well, serving as a very partisan Obama black supporter)

by **mdmahangover** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:46 am

voted almost 2 weeks ago.

by **nunz** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:29 am

by **Sacred** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:18 am

Airnick15 wrote:too lazy to upload george carlin's thoughts, but yeah.

haha thats all ive been thinking about with all this election shit.

“I don't vote. Two reasons. First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The shit they shovel around every 4 years *pfff* doesn't mean a fucking thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.” -- George Carlin

by **Airnick15** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:26 am

too lazy to upload george carlin's thoughts, but yeah.

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