TPG Season 25 Schedule

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:12 am

Preseason 1 - Sunday, Apr 3rd 9:00 pm EDT - dod_muhle_b2
Preseason 2 - Sunday, Apr 10th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_sherman2_b6

Week 1 - Sunday, Apr 17th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_lennon_b2
Week 2 - Sunday, Apr 24th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_railroad
Week 3 - Sunday, May 8th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_donner
Week 4 - Sunday, May 15th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_anzio
Week 5 - Sunday, May 22nd 9:00 pm EDT - dod_solitude_b2
Week 6 - Sunday, May 29th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_merderet
Week 7 - Sunday, Jun 5th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_harrington
Week 8 - Sunday, Jun 12th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_avalanche
Week 9 - Sunday, Jun 19th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_chemille
Week 10 - Sunday, Jun 26th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_railroad2_b2

Map's Download - Config's Download

Post by **Black Hawk** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:29 pm

Week 8 - Sunday, Jun 12th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_avalanche

Why??

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:30 pm

Muhle really isn't a bad map. I'd like to see it replace rr1 in the regular season.

Also, I'd take out Merderet and Solitude, replacing them with Sherman and the improved version of Saints.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:54 pm

juliowinnfredo wrote:Muhle really isn't a bad map. I'd like to see it replace rr1 in the regular season.

Also, I'd take out Merderet and Solitude, replacing them with Sherman and the improved version of Saints.

????!

Merderet is a classic.

Saints and Sherman?? Really?

Post by **Black Hawk** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:47 pm

Solitude = 1 of the best maps in DOD, Replace Muhle, Merderet, and Avalanche.
Play Saints, Sherman and just play a map like anzio or Lennon_b2 again.

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:46 pm

Solitude isn't bad. Merderet should go away because it's awful. Avalanche isn't a match map at all either. Sherman isn't bad. Muhle was fun the last time I played it. But that was when it was released.

Should be a fun season.

Swiss · Post by **Swiss** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:28 pm

avalanche is going to be a joke, just a heads up

NetherHell · Post by **NetherHell** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:20 pm

Don't you dare take away Merderet! Kids these days, don't appreciate a good thing when they see it!

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:23 pm

Ramelle was way better, I'll give you that.

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:35 pm

Sears wrote:Ramelle was way better, I'll give you that.

It was so good that we had a finals match on it. And it was a damned good one at that!

101st vs. dwk I think. It came down to the final seconds.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:44 pm

Yeah it was 101st dwk, probably one of the best matches of all time imo.

motive · Post by **motive** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:59 pm

this is like the exact maplist i wanted with the exception of sherman which encourages faggotry when playing and chemille which isn't a map so much as it is a felching orgy in BSP format

tl;dr would rather play sherman and cr44 instead

or koln

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:36 pm

Koln YESSS

Wint0 · Post by **Wint0** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:55 pm

keep chemillie, one of my favs, give you the risk kids special and you'll love it. Lots of faggotry and just a bit of lanman

`NG · Post by **`NG** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:35 pm

Eh, there are too many damn shermans.

Stamp · Post by **Stamp** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:06 am

Dude. This is going to be a fun ass season

Post by **ceebz** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:02 pm

Week 8 - Sunday, Jun 12th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_avalanche

the axis teams are just going to mg over 2nd and basically rape anything in sight lol..

rwc8thc · Post by **rwc8thc** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:08 pm

You guys aren't giving avalanche its due. Back in the day when 85th moved through the CAL ranks, I recall playing some GREAT matches on that map. It's not as one sided as you'd think either. I've seen many teams win as allies. Tornado room ftw.

tl;dr (<-whatever the hell this means) You'll play avalanche and like it.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:43 pm

lol, tl;dr stand for too long; didn't read

unpro · Post by **unpro** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:49 pm

once people figured out the spam spots though RWC, thats all that map is now. a cluster fuck in apartments, and spamming with MGs.

there are sadly only a few actually high quality maps in dod for league play, and since this community isnt like cs, we play a lot of maps. everyone sits and complains about the maps every single time, but no one wants to play rr2/harry/anzio/chemille(yes, its actually a decent map), and donner every season repeatedly.

makes things interesting at times, but there are also some pretty broke maps that end up in rotations.

Swiss · Post by **Swiss** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:46 pm

sherman for ava, thats all im saying.

unpro · Post by **unpro** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:09 pm

shermans a giant nade fuck in middle, nothing that puts it above ava.

t`RavE · Post by **t`RavE** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:23 pm

unpro wrote:shermans a giant nade fuck in middle, nothing that puts it above ava.

Don't forget people proning in those corners near the tank... and basically every corner in the back alley.

`NG · Post by **`NG** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:26 pm

Let's just play all the 58,000 variations of dod_cr44

james- · Post by **james-** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:27 pm

Solitude is a great map, I would put that in any rotation. Chemille is a good one too, requires some good coordination to really play well on it.

Saints is no fun, too many bugs and bad hitboxes in either version. Cr44>saints any day, and like always I want to see cr44 brought back!

Avalanche only gets a bad rap because of the pub aspect, it's always been fun to play it for league play, some of the craziest wall shots and other shit gets pulled off.

I'd honestly like to see more sherman too. The map has improved so much from the original version that made everyone hate it. I think it has the same feel as donner too, if kids would just stop playing so fucking gay then the map would be so much more enjoyable.

`NG · Post by **`NG** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:23 am

I never had a problem with cal_sherman, but it seems like with every variation someone puts more damn boxes somewhere.

Polak · Post by **Polak** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:28 pm

cr44 is such a good map compared to merderate and saints

how can one hate solitude its such a good map. when one breaks through mid and apartments in a crazy way all hell breaks loose and i love that

ava is fine if a MG is banned from the map o.O

ryanemo · Post by **ryanemo** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:16 am

Week 1 - Sunday, Apr 17th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_lennon_b2
Week 2 - Sunday, Apr 24th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_railroad
Week 3 - Sunday, May 8th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_donner
Week 4 - Sunday, May 15th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_anzio
Week 5 - Sunday, May 22nd 9:00 pm EDT - dod_solitude_b2
Week 6 - Sunday, May 29th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_merderet
Week 7 - Sunday, Jun 5th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_harrington
Week 8 - Sunday, Jun 12th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_avalanche
Week 9 - Sunday, Jun 19th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_chemille
Week 10 - Sunday, Jun 26th 9:00 pm EDT - dod_railroad2_b2

map rotation actually looks pretty good. wouldn't mind seeing sherman in next reg season play. clustered as hell but if you know how to play it you can avoid that kinda stuff.

propaganda · Post by **propaganda** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:48 pm

People are bitching about ava and not merderet? I was always a fan of merd (when dod was competetive at least) but wow i wouldnt have guessed that.

unpro · Post by **unpro** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:36 pm

i would rather player play harry, rr2, donner, chemille, anzio 2x a season than lennon, solitude, sherman, merderet, saints, etc.

i would be happy with a harry/anzio/rr2/donner rotation personally. other maps have some crazy moments sometimes... but those are probably the most balanced 4 maps in dod. lennon was a good attempt, but the team with the better BARs will basically roll apartments and be blue/axis 1 all half, then just stay within one cap axis side and its an easy win.

i never understood the hatred of donner. its a slow map i know, but its one of the most balanced maps in the game.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:41 pm

caen2

Wint0 · Post by **Wint0** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:40 pm

to be completely honest its not about balanced maps. you play both sides so don't give me that shit. Every map comes down to the best TEAM and i stress team because a. the team with the best players usually wins b. the team with the best strats does win. IF you slag off maps like merderet sherman solitude and saints you leave this game up to a select group of individuals who don't bother to understand the game and who don't bother to take in the possibilities. Off the top of my head i could give you several different scenarios from each of these maps where I would have directed my team to go, after certain frags. Needless to say this is a tipsy rant and ya'll can suck my cock, but seriously, don't be so simple minded(thats why this game died in the first place, not that I would have cared if it had been played longer). I will say this however, I think lennon is a god awful map and should be taken out of the rotation due to the fact it forces play style instead of a team having to dictate it with better play. You send your heavies through the apts. Your sniper and rifle long, and your rifles to well or wtf its called, and your light whever you chose. It doesn't matter and it doesnt change due to the structure of the map(name me one map where you can change this EFFECTIVELY and i might agree with you but I doubt it).

/end rant WHEW

unpro · Post by **unpro** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:28 pm

having a balance axis and allied side is what makes a map good. sure you play both sides, but having the balance is what makes it truly a great map to play.

`NG · Post by **`NG** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:27 am

running two lights and a heavy long on lennon, brb

ryanemo · Post by **ryanemo** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:58 am

wint0 for the win.

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:48 am

both teams play a half on each side.. and good teams know how to counter their opponents while on the weaker side.

l2p noob.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:21 am

Wint0 hit the nail on the head really.

What was fun about DoD and what made it different from counter-strike, was that your strategy was very dynamic. It changed depending on how the match was playing itself out, or how many frags occurred at a particular place at a particular time, and it changed very quickly. This is what set really good TEAMS apart from ok teams that had some good individual players.

To be honest, my most memorable match was a quadrupole overtime playoff match against NHN on dod_ramelle.

Ramelle was a crazy fun map in competitive play because it was imbalanced in two ways. One, because it was much easier for the axis to capture and hold middle for long periods of time. Two, because in the event that the allies were able to establish themselves across the bridge, it was much easier for them to cap out quickly.

So, you had matches that could flip-flop in the matter of seconds. The axis could spend 18 minutes holding middle and building a sizable point lead, only to lose it in the last few minutes as the allies capped out once they broke through the bridge. You had to constantly adjust your team's strategy on both sides based on kill streaks and the roll of the dice.

Maps like cherbourg, caen2, thunder, and anzio (hugely allies biased) all played themselves out like this in beta days, and were very popular playoff maps because they made for incredibly intense and entertaining matches when two great TEAMS played one another.

On maps that have any kind of imbalance or are non-linear, you are forced to rely on your teamwork and communication or you will get rolled by a less skilled team.

People today like to pug harry/anzio/rr2 on repeat because everyone wants to frag and pat themselves on the back for being SOOO GOOD. Which is much easier to do when you can peek every corner from memory and more or less know where people will be coming at you from (because they don't have a choice).

That's not what set DoD apart from CS, and I think it's pretty weak that many people playing today fail to realize that.

unpro · Post by **unpro** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:43 am

Its just my opinion. Probably stems from all the cs i used to play, but ive always prefered the more balanced maps than the crazy ones. Dont take it so serious, its just an opinion. Taylor, when i actually cared about this game, you where getting gunz pointed at you and being terrible at the game.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:17 pm

Yeah totally, cs is a different monster all together. So was TFC, where I originally started fragging. Wasn't taking it "so serious", just my two cents and sweet sweet memories on the subject, and I tend to be verbose.

But yeah, when the competitive DoD community first started to grow rapidly, there was a stigma in the community for players that were all about hugging/peeking corners and fragging their balls off. But, then again, this was at a time when there were a lot more Unreal Tournament type elements to DoD because you could play very aggressively and whip around corners sprint prone diving with a BAR. Playing defensively/"smart" was not only frowned up, but was ineffective against better players/teams. The K:D ratio was still important, but not always indicative of the better player. Just a different time and a different game.

propaganda · Post by **propaganda** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:30 pm

Yup.../agree Winto

PS - haha wow you guys brought risK back with a good portion of the orig roster, nice.

Hudson` · Post by **Hudson`** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:27 pm

winto detected

dorito · Post by **dorito** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:32 pm

completely agree with winto. lennon is awful

james- · Post by **james-** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:52 pm

I like what wint0 said. My favorite maps have always been harrington and anzio because of the diversity of the maps.

I remember the first time I ran into a kar going mountain on harrington. We had never seen anything other than 2 heavies going mountain, so he shut us down until we decided to send one heavy mid and I rotated between mid and mountain with a sniper. From there on we just experimented with it.

Anzio is just plain fun.

JustiN-_^ · Post by **JustiN-_^** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:21 am

juliowinnfredo wrote:Muhle really isn't a bad map. I'd like to see it replace rr1 in the regular season.

Also, I'd take out Merderet and Solitude, replacing them with Sherman and the improved version of Saints.

Solitude is a great map. Merderet can go though, I'd love to see Muhle or Aleutian.

patten · Post by **patten** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:31 am

sherman is so bad... maps that are straight lines are not creative at all or fun to play, why not just stick with the maps everyone loved ...harrington/anzio/chemille/rr2/donner(maybe)/solitude(maybe)? does anyone really care if we play the same map twice?

avalanche really?

seanality · Post by **seanality** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:17 am

patten wrote:sherman is so bad... maps that are straight lines are not creative at all or fun to play, why not just stick with the maps everyone loved ...harrington/anzio/chemille/rr2/donner(maybe)/solitude(maybe)? does anyone really care if we play the same map twice?

avalanche really?

What about that map that looked like de_cpl_mill that was pretty tit. Muehl or whatever.

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:21 am

they took out some of the areas in muhle that made it decent and more like mill. closed it off too much.

rr1 was made in 2.0 when dod used the higher pov, so a lot of the areas aren't that great in current 1.3

seanality · Post by **seanality** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:24 am

How the fuck has this game lasted this long with these shitty maps? lol

SOMEONE MAKE A MAP PLEASE.

Swiss · Post by **Swiss** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:47 pm

lerf made one a month ago or something and i liked it. some people flamed it but honestly i thought it was pretty good. amazing that someone actually created a new map at this point

acetamino · Post by **acetamino** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:04 pm

if anyone has the hammer configs and ideas I can be a creator!