dear MVP

mogers · Post by **mogers** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:10 pm

Char wrote:
joeledmunds wrote:Soooooo... people thinking that there should be a rematch because this is kind of a sad way to see a solid matchup resolved, is illogical. That's a dumb thing to say. Most people who aren't on either of the involved teams aren't breaking down the point difference. We just think it sucks. Although I do think it's funny you really want to believe that Traize's rates DEFINITELY made that 90 point difference happen, and that him having a few more flag caps is proof of anything. You give us a great montage of Traize capturing last flags under a hail of ineffective bullets while he laughs maniacally, or get the fuck out of here with poor arguments that, for all their appearances to this community, are just a rationale for being angry with DemoFreak on hand.
MVPz broke a rule, they can't handle the FF loss, they request a rematch. Their reasoning - "Traize didn't do anything but go negative and get dumped on". Last I checked, that doesn't fucking matter. No one checked our scores when we rated and our shit got overturned. I was explaining how their excuses are bullshit. Traize clearly wasn't useless. He had top flag caps when he rated his balls off. It's in the rules. You rate, you lose. Not entirely difficult to understand, is it? TPG is corrupt. End of god damn discussion?

You got the FF win.. so how is TPG Corrupt? Also, from what I remember reading, Taylu_b is the one who suggested the rematch? I think he's on your team isn't he?

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:11 pm

joeledmunds wrote: You give us a great montage of Traize capturing last flags under a hail of ineffective bullets while he laughs maniacally, or get the fuck out of here with poor arguments that, for all their appearances to this community, are just a rationale for being angry with DemoFreak on hand.

This made me laugh out loud.

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:15 pm

mogers wrote:
Char wrote:
joeledmunds wrote:Soooooo... people thinking that there should be a rematch because this is kind of a sad way to see a solid matchup resolved, is illogical. That's a dumb thing to say. Most people who aren't on either of the involved teams aren't breaking down the point difference. We just think it sucks. Although I do think it's funny you really want to believe that Traize's rates DEFINITELY made that 90 point difference happen, and that him having a few more flag caps is proof of anything. You give us a great montage of Traize capturing last flags under a hail of ineffective bullets while he laughs maniacally, or get the fuck out of here with poor arguments that, for all their appearances to this community, are just a rationale for being angry with DemoFreak on hand.
MVPz broke a rule, they can't handle the FF loss, they request a rematch. Their reasoning - "Traize didn't do anything but go negative and get dumped on". Last I checked, that doesn't fucking matter. No one checked our scores when we rated and our shit got overturned. I was explaining how their excuses are bullshit. Traize clearly wasn't useless. He had top flag caps when he rated his balls off. It's in the rules. You rate, you lose. Not entirely difficult to understand, is it? TPG is corrupt. End of god damn discussion?
You got the FF win.. so how is TPG Corrupt? Also, from what I remember reading, Taylu_b is the one who suggested the rematch? I think he's on your team isn't he?

This is where all the bullshit stemmed from. We were told by an admin to rematch. We weren't asked. It was presented to us as "Contact the other team, and rematch". Why? they rated. We won. Taylor was just trying to make amends, and sound nice. Then MVPz started cluttering the forums acting like complete and utter faggots, so I see no reason to keep treating them with respect. Narc. Why didn't you take the FF loss? Why is your team coming into vent post game calling us faggots, saying you'll lose respect for us if we don't let it slide? Make some sense homie.
I see a lot of "boohoo you're a moron", and not a lot of "Here is my reasoning for you being incorrect". butthurt team is butthurt.
edit : Also I didn't care in the slightest whether or not we played a rematch, but as soon as these nerds started saying "We won fair and square" and "Just take the loss" and shit, then I'm going to have to call you out on that. I don't see us sitting at 9-1 right now because people let our accidental rating player slide. No sir, I do not. Why would your team be an exception? That's the 1,000,000$ question that you people can't seem to fucking answer. Why in the hell would anyone care what the score was, or if it was playoffs? Your team broke a rule, you lose. /end.

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:19 pm

How does a different admin who isn't on our team and who doesn't take any outside influence all of a sudden mean that TPG is corrupt. It wasn't the decision of anyone on our team. I never understood this shit. Not every decision is going to be the same across the board. There are different circumstances and nuances in every decision and therefore different results for similar situations can and will occur. I used to get the same shit when I ran CAL and it didn't make sense then as much as it doesn't make sense now. Some people are just too fucking stupid to understand basic management situations.

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:23 pm

Schmiggs wrote:How does a different admin who isn't on our team and who doesn't take any outside influence all of a sudden mean that TPG is corrupt. It wasn't the decision of anyone on our team. I never understood this shit. Not every decision is going to be the same across the board. There are different circumstances and nuances in every decision and therefore different results for similar situations can and will occur. I used to get the same shit when I ran CAL and it didn't make sense then as much as it doesn't make sense now. Some people are just too fucking stupid to understand basic management situations.

And some people are just too fucking stupid to understand basic rules.

theshizz · Post by **theshizz** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:30 pm

===Just curious... if this person was rating, why wasn't any action taken? If I recall someone on Mindflow was rating in an earlier match this season, and they got a loss. No rematch no nothing... but Narc said himself.."Rules are rules.. blah blah blah". Also TA and KS, didn't someone have illegal rates in the quarter finals? Nobody got a rematch then so why the rematch now if rules are rules? Someone was rating on the opposing team therefore that team should have 0 points.===

Corrupted. End of story.

^^^^^^

agreed

Narc · Post by **Narc** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:33 pm

What are you talking about Char, we did take the ff loss. I told the tpg admin i was not going to handle this dispute. Then he decided to have us play a rematch. I had no control on that desicion. I then told him we were just going to take a ff loss since its the right choice considering the way tpg handled rating disputes. So that is the way it played out. As for my team going into your vent bitching about you pulling a rate dispute to get a win? Well who wouldnt. It is a gay way to win. I roll my eyes at every single rate dispute that comes to tpg. I think to dispute over it is pathetic, thats my personal feelings. You and your team have no shame in winning on a technicality. Kudos. You won. Personally I wouldnt have disputed any team over it. Thats just me and I know there are other teams that wouldnt either. I believe your team was not disputed by hd when your player had a 7500 rate. Just goes to show you that there are cool players and teams still left. You and your team, well dont fit in that list. I have zero respect for everyone on your team. But you were within your rights. But let me ask you this, if you ever got pulled over and the cop let you off on an warning, is that cop corrupt even though you blatantly broke the rules? No, he made a judgement call. Not sure if that was a good example but its an example of what we call judgement calls. Thats even in the rules.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

So I really dont know what else to say to you. I"f you argue with a jackass, you have to ask yourself who the jackass really is."

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:35 pm

Char, the fact that you honestly think that Traize having a rate of 7500 dramatically impacted the match that much for your team to lose is enough to prove you don't know shit about the game or the situations that you yourself were involved in during your own match. Traize wasn't the one dominating anyone but maybe our second flag. He spent the entire match getting yelled at and I had to bail out the long team quite a few times. You guys lost. You would have lost still if Traize didn't have the 7500 rate. What would you be grasping at then when the old fucks beat you? Austin admitted you guys didn't play your best match. That had nothing to do with Traize. It might have been caused by your guys being cocky and thinking you could just switch weapons during the playoffs because you beat us earlier in the season by a good margin. Teams play better or worse on different maps. We just played better than you on Harrytown. In all of the years I have played this game and for all of the teams that I had run and played on, I would have never let a rating issue last throughout the match and if it did happen to get by, I wouldn't use it to get a cheap playoff win when my team was obviously beat fairly. And I am sorry, a 7500 rate, not even a bad update rate or cmd rate doesn't cause that much of a swing. You would have lost with or without the rate.

That's fine though. I'm good knowing that we won the match when we were such clear underdogs. Great game mindflow, it was awesome to play decent against austin and I really did have the most fun in a match I had had in a while. We probably won't have Pat and Ace back on mvpz and who knows the status of us going into next season, but I really think we underachieved this season. This match was a clue of the potential we could have reached if we actually put in the effort. It was a fun season and I wouldn't change it for anything.

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:36 pm

Narc wrote:What are you talking about Char, we did take the ff loss. I told the tpg admin i was not going to handle this dispute. Then he decided to have us play a rematch. I had no control on that desicion. I then told him we were just going to take a ff loss since its the right choice considering the way tpg handled rating disputes. So that is the way it played out. As for my team going into your vent bitching about you pulling a rate dispute to get a win? Well who wouldnt. It is a gay way to win. I roll my eyes at every single rate dispute that comes to tpg. I think to dispute over it is pathetic, thats my personal feelings. You and your team have no shame in winning on a technicality. Kudos. You won. Personally I wouldnt have disputed any team over it. Thats just me and I know there are other teams that wouldnt either. I believe your team was not disputed by hd when your player had a 7500 rate. Just goes to show you that there are cool players and teams still left. You and your team, well dont fit in that list. I have zero respect for everyone on your team. But you were within your rights. But let me ask you this, if you ever got pulled over and the cop let you off on an warning, is that cop corrupt even though you blatantly broke the rules? No, he made a judgement call. Not sure if that was a good example but its an example of what we call judgement calls. Thats even in the rules.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

So I really dont know what else to say to you. I"f you argue with a jackass, you have to ask yourself who the jackass really is."

I don't see NFL/NBA teams feeling bad after winning by technicality. Feeling pretty good right now.
1080 are cool guys. yes. but also, we kind of stomped them. Mentioned it earlier. Also if they didn't let it go, we'd still be in playoffs.

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:41 pm

Schmiggs wrote:Char, the fact that you honestly think that Traize having a rate of 7500 dramatically impacted the match that much for your team to lose is enough to prove you don't know shit about the game or the situations that you yourself were involved in during your own match. Traize wasn't the one dominating anyone but maybe our second flag. He spent the entire match getting yelled at and I had to bail out the long team quite a few times. You guys lost. You would have lost still if Traize didn't have the 7500 rate. What would you be grasping at then when the old fucks beat you? Austin admitted you guys didn't play your best match. That had nothing to do with Traize. It might have been caused by your guys being cocky and thinking you could just switch weapons during the playoffs because you beat us earlier in the season by a good margin. Teams play better or worse on different maps. We just played better than you on Harrytown. In all of the years I have played this game and for all of the teams that I had run and played on, I would have never let a rating issue last throughout the match and if it did happen to get by, I wouldn't use it to get a cheap playoff win when my team was obviously beat fairly. And I am sorry, a 7500 rate, not even a bad update rate or cmd rate doesn't cause that much of a swing. You would have lost with or without the rate.

That's fine though. I'm good knowing that we won the match when we were such clear underdogs. Great game mindflow, it was awesome to play decent against austin and I really did have the most fun in a match I had had in a while. We probably won't have Pat and Ace back on mvpz and who knows the status of us going into next season, but I really think we underachieved this season. This match was a clue of the potential we could have reached if we actually put in the effort. It was a fun season and I wouldn't change it for anything.

He fixed his rate second half, and you lost second half. I guess that we just happened to get MAGICALLY BETTER at a video game in the span of 5 minutes. Clearly we were outplayed. Let me ask you this. If rating isn't such a big deal, why is it punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me.
If you'd like to look any dumber, feel free to keep posting here.

Yaso · Post by **Yaso** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:44 pm

Char wrote:
Narc wrote:What are you talking about Char, we did take the ff loss. I told the tpg admin i was not going to handle this dispute. Then he decided to have us play a rematch. I had no control on that desicion. I then told him we were just going to take a ff loss since its the right choice considering the way tpg handled rating disputes. So that is the way it played out. As for my team going into your vent bitching about you pulling a rate dispute to get a win? Well who wouldnt. It is a gay way to win. I roll my eyes at every single rate dispute that comes to tpg. I think to dispute over it is pathetic, thats my personal feelings. You and your team have no shame in winning on a technicality. Kudos. You won. Personally I wouldnt have disputed any team over it. Thats just me and I know there are other teams that wouldnt either. I believe your team was not disputed by hd when your player had a 7500 rate. Just goes to show you that there are cool players and teams still left. You and your team, well dont fit in that list. I have zero respect for everyone on your team. But you were within your rights. But let me ask you this, if you ever got pulled over and the cop let you off on an warning, is that cop corrupt even though you blatantly broke the rules? No, he made a judgement call. Not sure if that was a good example but its an example of what we call judgement calls. Thats even in the rules.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

So I really dont know what else to say to you. I"f you argue with a jackass, you have to ask yourself who the jackass really is."
I don't see NFL/NBA teams feeling bad after winning by technicality. Feeling pretty good right now.
1080 are cool guys. yes. but also, we kind of stomped them. Mentioned it earlier. Also if they didn't let it go, we'd still be in playoffs.

You can't even compare pro sports to a video game that's played for nothing more than bragging rights. As for feeling good about winning over stupid shit like rating, shows just how much of a child you really are.

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:47 pm

I think the fact that Allies is significantly easier than Axis might have had something to do with that. But then again, I have never been to logicland. And I think pretty much everyone reading your inane bullshit can agree that you're the only one here that looks like an idiot.

Yaso · Post by **Yaso** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:48 pm

Schmiggs wrote:I think the fact that Allies is significantly easier than Axis might have had something to do with that. But then again, I have never been to logicland. And I think pretty much everyone reading your inane bullshit can agree that you're the only one here that looks like an idiot.

^^^The truth right here.

Welcome to Logic Land. Population: Schmiggs.

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:50 pm

rwc8thc · Post by **rwc8thc** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:52 pm

Dammit. If I wasn't in the middle of moving right now I would've been there on Sunday and absolutely pooped on kids. Then this would've been a non issue.

defiance · Post by **defiance** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:53 pm

All i know is, i just gave out a lot of rep and took away a lot of rep in this thread!

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:54 pm

Schmiggs wrote:I think the fact that Allies is significantly easier than Axis might have had something to do with that. But then again, I have never been to logicland. And I think pretty much everyone reading your inane bullshit can agree that you're the only one here that looks like an idiot.

You must have skipped several posts where others have brought up the rating issue. Your team should be punished. You broke the rules. Everyone else was punished. Your team was being extremely greasy, trying to wiggle through with a win. You're just furious that your team can't even check rates before a match that you care so much about. To people saying "Hey, you did get the FF win". That came after 4 pages of DoDrama that I so intensely cooked up.

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:01 pm

Don't really give a fuck if you want the gay win. I've won plenty in this game and the one match doesn't really mean as much to me as it obviously does you. The fact that you needed to push this dispute forward with something so weak like a default rate says enough for me. Head back to idiotville, population: the unaware...

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:03 pm

Schmiggs wrote:Don't really give a fuck if you want the gay win. I've won plenty in this game and the one match doesn't really mean as much to me as it obviously does you. The fact that you needed to push this dispute forward with something so weak like a default rate says enough for me. Head back to idiotville, population: the unaware...

I understand. My logic and reference to the rulebook was too much for you to handle. See ya next season, bro.

SKiNnTo · Post by **SKiNnTo** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:08 pm

How many times can you say the same things in a different order? This thread is amazing! I think this calls for a serious front page article! How do I get this rep gig?

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:22 pm

Schmiggs wrote:I think the fact that Allies is significantly easier than Axis might have had something to do with that. But then again, I have never been to logicland. And I think pretty much everyone reading your inane bullshit can agree that you're the only one here that looks like an idiot.

I repped you. Then repped someone else. Then repped you. Then someone else. Then you again... Over and over again!

dorraj · Post by **dorraj** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:52 pm

Jesus fucking christ, I have a headache just from reading all this shit, Char. Clearly you're a retarded shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot shitty gay pathetic cock sucking faggot fuck shitty fucktard piece of shit homo douche bag moronic loser cunt smelling hot dog eating faggot idiot.

I'm not really a mean person, you just make me angry.

badnewspanda · Post by **badnewspanda** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:53 pm

I'm convinced, Char is just trolling us all. I'd give it a 7/10

badnewspanda · Post by **badnewspanda** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:56 pm

Oh and this guy in no way should reflect the team mindflow at all.

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:58 pm

badnewspanda wrote:Oh and this guy in no way should reflect the team mindflow at all.

Neither should you.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:59 pm

Char wrote:jb, We should have won. You guys rated, and should take your loss. Instead, you call us "faggots" and "cocksuckers" like a twelve year old and come into vent and say we are gay for making this decision. Then you bend the rules and force us to rematch. Yet you "lose all respect for us". Sounds legit. We haven't been confrontational toward you guys in the slightest, and we sure as hell didn't do anything wrong. Stop turning this back on us and making us look like the bad guys.

jblogic->>> Break a rule >>> it's playoffs, so obviously it matters >>> call the other team faggots because they point out rule breaking >>> bend rules, be corrupt, force rematch >>> JUST LET THE WORSE TEAM WIN GUYS. C'MON. NO RESPECT.

How much did you lose by? If you lost by more than 50 (being modest there), you would have lost regardless of Traize having illegal rates.

You're being awfully sassy for someone who is borderline irrational.

c0urt wrote:§7.4 Match Infractions

Listed below are common match violations and typical league remedies. These are guidelines only and the league may require more or less stringent remedies on a case by case basis. The league reserves the right to review rules violations whether or not a team files a formal dispute.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

===Just curious... if this person was rating, why wasn't any action taken? If I recall someone on Mindflow was rating in an earlier match this season, and they got a loss. No rematch no nothing... but Narc said himself.."Rules are rules.. blah blah blah". Also TA and KS, didn't someone have illegal rates in the quarter finals? Nobody got a rematch then so why the rematch now if rules are rules? Someone was rating on the opposing team therefore that team should have 0 points.===

Corrupted. End of story.

If the rules are stupid, and the more LOGICAL choice is to do something that goes against those stupid rules, then it's justified. Simple.

I would never, ever dispute over rates if I lost by that much.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:14 pm

Basically this whole case sounds like Bayside High's ordeal at CPL 2005.

inb4 "what happened at CPL in 2005?"
inb4 "what's CPL?"

Char you're just funny because you're actually thinking you deserve the win when you lost by ~100, or so? Yeah, a rate of 7500 TOTALLY MADE YOU LOSE.

Pls go. Hide behind the rules even those said rules are fucking stupid. As a team leader, I would never make someone FF if we lost by that much over rates. Sad. Sad sad sad.

usad? ya u sad.

Char wrote:He fixed his rate second half, and you lost second half. I guess that we just happened to get MAGICALLY BETTER at a video game in the span of 5 minutes. Clearly we were outplayed. Let me ask you this. If rating isn't such a big deal, why is it punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me.
If you'd like to look any dumber, feel free to keep posting here.

LogicLand: where we compare two DIFFERENT halves of DIFFERENT sides with DIFFERENT weapons and equate them as one in the same.

You're a joke, and horrifically illogical. See below...

Schmiggs wrote:I think the fact that Allies is significantly easier than Axis might have had something to do with that. But then again, I have never been to logicland. And I think pretty much everyone reading your inane bullshit can agree that you're the only one here that looks like an idiot.

Owned.

Char wrote:
badnewspanda wrote:Oh and this guy in no way should reflect the team mindflow at all.
Neither should you.

Will Ward reflects our community, gamers as a whole, and humanity as a whole.

Shut your whorish mouth when you talk to him.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:17 pm

Three posts. In a row.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:17 pm

Who is this retard? He's about to get banned from neg rep already.

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:19 pm

alex kirk wrote:Basically this whole case sounds like Bayside High's ordeal at CPL 2005.

inb4 "what happened at CPL in 2005?"
inb4 "what's CPL?"

Char you're just funny because you're actually thinking you deserve the win when you lost by ~100, or so? Yeah, a rate of 7500 TOTALLY MADE YOU LOSE.

Pls go. Hide behind the rules even those said rules are fucking stupid. As a team leader, I would never make someone FF if we lost by that much over rates. Sad. Sad sad sad.

usad? ya u sad.

Char wrote:He fixed his rate second half, and you lost second half. I guess that we just happened to get MAGICALLY BETTER at a video game in the span of 5 minutes. Clearly we were outplayed. Let me ask you this. If rating isn't such a big deal, why is it punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me.
If you'd like to look any dumber, feel free to keep posting here.
LogicLand: where we compare two DIFFERENT halves of DIFFERENT sides with DIFFERENT weapons and equate them as one in the same.

You're a joke, and horrifically illogical. See below...

Schmiggs wrote:I think the fact that Allies is significantly easier than Axis might have had something to do with that. But then again, I have never been to logicland. And I think pretty much everyone reading your inane bullshit can agree that you're the only one here that looks like an idiot.
Owned.

Char wrote:
badnewspanda wrote:Oh and this guy in no way should reflect the team mindflow at all.
Neither should you.
Will Ward reflects our community, gamers as a whole, and humanity as a whole.

Shut your whorish mouth when you talk to him.

Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.

gwolf_ · Post by **gwolf_** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:19 pm

alex kirk wrote:[
If the rules are stupid, and the more LOGICAL choice is to do something that goes against those stupid rules, then it's justified. Simple.

I would never, ever dispute over rates if I lost by that much.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:23 pm

Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.

Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate fuck.

And guess what? It's in the fucking rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.

See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.

I would say this is a great time to change the rules regarding rating. The fact that you can win by 100 points and have the match overturned for 7500 rate is crazy illogical.

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:29 pm

alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.
Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate fuck.

And guess what? It's in the fucking rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

Edit: Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. Guess this thread makes a little more sense now?
In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.
See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.

The rules state what the fuck happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the fuck would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

dorraj · Post by **dorraj** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:30 pm

Char wrote:
alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.
Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate fuck.

And guess what? It's in the fucking rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.
See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.
The rules state what the fuck happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the fuck would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Alex Kirk has spoken, shut your whore mouth.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:30 pm

Char wrote:The rules state what the fuck happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the fuck would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

umad?

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

umad?

Just because your dumbass, biased opinion doesn't see how there are extraneous variables regarding this matter doesn't mean the rest of us "illogical" folk don't. As we pay attention to said variables, we acknowledge that the TPG admin authority being used to propose/accept a rematch IS justified AND in accordance with the rules.

Brb ALL instances of rating are the same. There are never other factors that differentiate one case from another. Rating is rating. Judgment shouldn't be used when approaching cases.

Where's your logic now?

Char · Post by **Char** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:35 pm

alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:The rules state what the fuck happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the fuck would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

umad?

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

umad?

Just because your dumbass, biased opinion doesn't see how there are extraneous variables regarding this matter doesn't mean the rest of us "illogical" folk don't. As we pay attention to said variables, we acknowledge that the TPG admin authority being used to propose/accept a rematch IS justified AND in accordance with the rules.

Brb ALL instances of rating are the same. There are never other factors that differentiate one case from another. Rating is rating. Judgment shouldn't be used when approaching cases.

Where's your logic now?

Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. No wonder we didn't let it slide? lolumad?

nugz` · Post by **nugz`** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:36 pm

alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:The rules state what the fuck happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the fuck would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

umad?

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

umad?

Just because your dumbass, biased opinion doesn't see how there are extraneous variables regarding this matter doesn't mean the rest of us "illogical" folk don't. As we pay attention to said variables, we acknowledge that the TPG admin authority being used to propose/accept a rematch IS justified AND in accordance with the rules.

Brb ALL instances of rating are the same. There are never other factors that differentiate one case from another. Rating is rating. Judgment shouldn't be used when approaching cases.

Where's your logic now?

i just keep staring at them chucks.

nugz` · Post by **nugz`** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:37 pm

Char wrote:
alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:The rules state what the fuck happens if you rate, moron. Obviously the right to change rules would be reserved for a very complicated scenario? Why the fuck would they just change a basic rule that has been in place forever? Oh wait, see entire thread.

Illegal rates:

Players may not go below the minimum approved values. Failure to do so will result in that player's team will be awarded 0 points per half;one player rating, first half 0 points, two players rating, first and second half 0 points and a minimum one game suspension.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.
TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

umad?

§8 Disclaimer

TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgement calls for any rule as necessary. These judgement calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

umad?

Just because your dumbass, biased opinion doesn't see how there are extraneous variables regarding this matter doesn't mean the rest of us "illogical" folk don't. As we pay attention to said variables, we acknowledge that the TPG admin authority being used to propose/accept a rematch IS justified AND in accordance with the rules.

Brb ALL instances of rating are the same. There are never other factors that differentiate one case from another. Rating is rating. Judgment shouldn't be used when approaching cases.

Where's your logic now?
Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. No wonder we didn't let it slide? lolumad?

actually that was alittle different then this. your team + the other team both had a player that was rating so he gave you both a ff + it was regular season.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:40 pm

Char wrote:Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. No wonder we didn't let it slide? lolumad?

Overturning a match where you clearly would have lost regardless of the rating is illogical. And if Narc did it to you previously under the same circumstances, I would say that was illogical, too.

Furthermore, from what I've gathered in this thread, YOUR team [leader?] proposed a rematch. They accepted, you bitched your ass off, and now Narc is taking the FF loss.

Why would I be mad? The general consensus is you can't read for shit and you're bitching like a 12 year old girl. You're making yourself look like a damn moron.

And your alias is char. Nothing further.

nugz` wrote:i just keep staring at them chucks.

I know you're mirin', brah.

nugz` wrote:actually that was alittle different then this. your team + the other team both had a player that was rating so he gave you both a ff + it was regular season.

Is this true? If so, big LOL at you leaving out those INCONSISTENT CIRCUMSTANCES (I've mentioned this point multiple times now - no excuse for forgetting it) that completely defeat your entire point.

gwolf_ · Post by **gwolf_** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:46 pm

alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.
Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate fuck.

And guess what? It's in the fucking rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.
See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.

I would say this is a great time to change the rules regarding rating. The fact that you can win by 100 points and have the match overturned for 7500 rate is crazy illogical.

If you do that then everyone is going to start rating and running around with a thompson/unter, particularly when they're losing a match. Where do you draw the line? 30 points? 50? As I pointed out in a previous post all it takes is about 35 seconds for everyone to make a read only userconfig.cfg that automatically exec's with proper rates and ex_interp settings. If everyone did that this would never happen.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:51 pm

gwolf_ wrote:If you do that then everyone is going to start rating and running around with a thompson/unter, particularly when they're losing a match. Where do you draw the line? 30 points? 50? As I pointed out in a previous post all it takes is about 35 seconds for everyone to make a read only userconfig.cfg that automatically exec's with proper rates and ex_interp settings. If everyone did that this would never happen.

Slippery slope argument is slippery. If an entire team is rating and you lose by 100, overturn it. If someone has default rates and you lose by 100, that's a stupid overturn. It's really that simple. Hence Narc having the rule where each case is different and will be judged independent of each one.

I agree everyone SHOULD play by the rules and make a proper userconfig.cfg (read only). But overturn a match because someone was rating when said team would have won regardless of rating? That's just stupid.

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:52 pm

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgment calls for any rule as necessary. These judgment calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

Repeat.

TPG admins will review each case separately and determine what, if any, remedy is required for each situation.

§8 Disclaimer
TPG admins reserve the right to make independent judgment calls for any rule as necessary. These judgment calls, if made, will supersede any current rules listed above.

I handled the dispute for the MVPZ vs MINDFLOW match.. Since it was a playoff match.. i felt that having a rematch would be the better alternative. (YOUR LEADER WANTED TO DROP THE DISPUTE AND FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.) Rather than having taylub drop the dispute I said you should just Replay the match. I knew he would agree with this since he was willing to drop the dispute in the first place.. I'm sick of hearing "Rules are Rules" ... Read above(§8 Disclaimer). I didn't handle the quarterfinal match with TA and KS if it had caught my eye I would have proposed the same thing. Rematch. Since it was a playoff match and the rating prob didn't have anything to do with the outcome.. The Rating rules will certainly be changed for next season.. One thing you should all remember is this is like season fucking 26? how long ago were these rules written? I feel the the rating rule mainly pertains the 'South American' players... aka Karl1san.. would rate and crouch hop around everywhere being unhittable. But the rule will definitely be changed.

nugz` · Post by **nugz`** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:52 pm

gwolf_ wrote:
alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:Again, why is rating punishable by suspension and that team receiving 0 points per half? Welcome to LogicLand. Population : me. Let me know when you grow a brain and stop reiterating every shit logic argument that everyone has already attempted to throw at me bro. Rules > excuses.
Narc already stated that admins reserve the right to treat each case differently, you illiterate fuck.

And guess what? It's in the fucking rules.

Where's your logic now.

gwolf_ wrote:I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

If the rules are stupid then change the rules. No one ever goes into a court room and says this law is stupid. (Yes I'm quite aware this isn't a court room, but the same principal applies). If someone gathered evidence in a murder trial, even if it so blatantly showed the defendant to be guilty, if it was obtained illegally it can not be used.

In order for the rules to maintain their legitimacy they must be enforced. That is the only appropriate logical response. It's impossible to evaluate impartially what is a stupid rule and what isn't. Therefore the only way to protect everyone is for the rules to be clear and for the rules to be followed. If they are not followed there are consequences. The only acceptable exception to this is if the team who was rated against (or any other violation for that matter) decides to "drop the case"

If we aren't going to follow any rules we may as well just play 12 mans and not have a league. If that is the case I'll just go back to playing CS instead. I've always enjoyed the competition and structure of playing in a league, that is what is fun about it for me. I don't want that to go away.
See what Narc posted regarding the rules and how admins take each instance as a unique case.

I would say this is a great time to change the rules regarding rating. The fact that you can win by 100 points and have the match overturned for 7500 rate is crazy illogical.
If you do that then everyone is going to start rating and running around with a thompson/unter, particularly when they're losing a match. Where do you draw the line? 30 points? 50? As I pointed out in a previous post all it takes is about 35 seconds for everyone to make a read only userconfig.cfg that automatically exec's with proper rates and ex_interp settings. If everyone did that this would never happen.

just take the overturn rule out and suspend the player that rates.

rymoz · Post by **rymoz** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:56 pm

alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. No wonder we didn't let it slide? lolumad?
Overturning a match where you clearly would have lost regardless of the rating is illogical. And if Narc did it to you previously under the same circumstances, I would say that was illogical, too.

Furthermore, from what I've gathered in this thread, YOUR team [leader?] proposed a rematch. They accepted, you bitched your ass off, and now Narc is taking the FF loss.

Why would I be mad? The general consensus is you can't read for shit and you're bitching like a 12 year old girl. You're making yourself look like a damn moron.

And your alias is char. Nothing further.

nugz` wrote:i just keep staring at them chucks.
I know you're mirin', brah.

nugz` wrote:actually that was alittle different then this. your team + the other team both had a player that was rating so he gave you both a ff + it was regular season.
Is this true? If so, big LOL at you leaving out those INCONSISTENT CIRCUMSTANCES (I've mentioned this point multiple times now - no excuse for forgetting it) that completely defeat your entire point.

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:57 pm

toxinatoR wrote:I handled the dispute for the MVPZ vs MINDFLOW match.. Since it was a playoff match.. i felt that having a rematch would be the better alternative. (YOUR LEADER WANTED TO DROP THE DISPUTE AND FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.) Rather than having taylub drop the dispute I said you should just Replay the match. I knew he would agree with this since he was willing to drop the dispute in the first place.. I'm sick of hearing "Rules are Rules" ... Read above(§8 Disclaimer). I didn't handle the quarterfinal match with TA and KS if it had caught my eye I would have proposed the same thing. Rematch. Since it was a playoff match and the rating prob didn't have anything to do with the outcome.. The Rating rules will certainly be changed for next season.. One thing you should all remember is this is like season fucking 26? how long ago were these rules written? I feel the the rating rule mainly pertains the 'South American' ARGENTINEAN players... aka Karl1san.. would rate and crouch hop around everywhere being unhittable. But the rule will definitely be changed.

fixed

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:59 pm

Char this you brah?

theshizz · Post by **theshizz** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:01 pm

kirk thats hilarious

Charr · Post by **Charr** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:04 pm

alex kirk wrote:
Char wrote:Overturning a match for 7500 rate is crazy illogical? Narc did it to us. No wonder we didn't let it slide? lolumad?
Overturning a match where you clearly would have lost regardless of the rating is illogical. And if Narc did it to you previously under the same circumstances, I would say that was illogical, too.

Furthermore, from what I've gathered in this thread, YOUR team [leader?] proposed a rematch. They accepted, you bitched your ass off, and now Narc is taking the FF loss.

Why would I be mad? The general consensus is you can't read for shit and you're bitching like a 12 year old girl. You're making yourself look like a damn moron.

And your alias is char. Nothing further.

nugz` wrote:i just keep staring at them chucks.
I know you're mirin', brah.

nugz` wrote:actually that was alittle different then this. your team + the other team both had a player that was rating so he gave you both a ff + it was regular season.
Is this true? If so, big LOL at you leaving out those INCONSISTENT CIRCUMSTANCES (I've mentioned this point multiple times now - no excuse for forgetting it) that completely defeat your entire point.

We were told to replay the match, as Tox stated. Taylor was trying to mend the situation.
Narc told us "Rules are Rules" when we had a player accidentally rating, so that's what we told him when his team told us to let it slide.
You should at least get your facts straight before storming in here like a 6 year old on a sugar high, making little to no sense at all. You just seem to skim through things and misinterpret nearly everything that is right in front of your face. Very tragic if you have this disability in the real world.
Edit: by the way, we only had someone rating one half in that game where we both received an FF loss, they had someone missing demos I believe. Guess you missed that part too. Man, you're just missing 95% of your facts today aren't you there little guy?

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:06 pm

cassinoroyale wrote:
toxinatoR wrote:I handled the dispute for the MVPZ vs MINDFLOW match.. Since it was a playoff match.. i felt that having a rematch would be the better alternative. (YOUR LEADER WANTED TO DROP THE DISPUTE AND FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.) Rather than having taylub drop the dispute I said you should just Replay the match. I knew he would agree with this since he was willing to drop the dispute in the first place.. I'm sick of hearing "Rules are Rules" ... Read above(§8 Disclaimer). I didn't handle the quarterfinal match with TA and KS if it had caught my eye I would have proposed the same thing. Rematch. Since it was a playoff match and the rating prob didn't have anything to do with the outcome.. The Rating rules will certainly be changed for next season.. One thing you should all remember is this is like season fucking 26? how long ago were these rules written? I feel the the rating rule mainly pertains the 'South American' ARGENTINEAN players... aka Karl1san.. would rate and crouch hop around everywhere being unhittable. But the rule will definitely be changed.
fixed

does fartbrazil.com still exist?

edit: damnit it doesnt

nugz` · Post by **nugz`** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:06 pm

alex kirk wrote:Char this you brah?