TPG DRAFT RESULTS/BRACKET

AlopeX · Post by **AlopeX** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:03 pm

you know being the fat kid in a 12man is ok. But being Mr. Irrelevant in a tpg draft of 80+ players. That just hurts.

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:18 pm

1. we could barely get 10 people to 'captain' let alone 12.
2. i wasn't going to just let ANYONE be a captain.
3. for the 9th time... we had 8 teams of 10 last draft and my team was probably the only team that DIDN'T have to use a ringer.
4. yes, it is suppose to be fun but it should also be competitive.
5. i would like to limit the use of ringers but it is also lame to have ff's or have to play 5v6..
6. this wont be the last draft lets so how this one goes.

stealthlol · Post by **stealthlol** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:06 pm

toxinatoR wrote:1. we could barely get 10 people to 'captain' let alone 12.
2. i wasn't going to just let ANYONE be a captain.
3. for the 9th time... we had 8 teams of 10 last draft and my team was probably the only team that DIDN'T have to use a ringer.
4. yes, it is suppose to be fun but it should also be competitive.
5. i would like to limit the use of ringers but it is also lame to have ff's or have to play 5v6..
6. this wont be the last draft lets so how this one goes.

1. Why not just let someone pick people? If this is for competition, everybody knows who the "good" players are.
2. See 1. You might as well let people who are willing to sit in a vent channel with the others and pick names.
3. For some reason this just doesn't make sense to me (maybe because I didn't play in the last draft). If you sign up, why not show up? It seems simple enough. But in order to prepare for this to happen, we have teams with, say, 8 active players who all signed up to play the entire thing.
4-6. Nothing to say, makes sense. I'm not trying to question your ability to run any of this. I'm just confused.

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:11 pm

1. you still need someone to "run" that team.. my goal was to pick ppl i am familiar with and can get ahold of..
2. see #1
3. its not always people not showing up but scheduling conflicts idk..
4. alex is gonna bench you anyway

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:38 pm

toxinatoR wrote:1. you still need someone to "run" that team.. my goal was to pick ppl i am familiar with and can get ahold of..
2. see #1
3. its not always people not showing up but scheduling conflicts idk..
4. alex is gonna bench you anyway

Uhh...

alexkirk: I don't think we'll need you

s t e a l t h l o l: haha
s t e a l t h l o l: Funny.
alexkirk: :\
s t e a l t h l o l: ...
s t e a l t h l o l is now Offline.

stealthlol · Post by **stealthlol** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:41 pm

Lack of time stamps, obviously false. It is somewhat true, though. I signed up for the draft to play a tournament between tpg seasons. If I end up not playing the matches because we have too many players, it would make me not want to sign up for the next one.

Miller` · Post by **Miller`** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:19 pm

Not a TERRIBLE idea to allow ringers from the pool of players taken in rounds 6-9.

hildebrand · Post by **hildebrand** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:27 pm

Miller` wrote:Not a TERRIBLE idea to allow ringers from the pool of players taken in rounds 6-9.

I second this idea. Be on time for matches, get picked out of a hat.

Post by **ceebz** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:02 pm

god damnit i got picked by cass fuck u all

rehpyc · Post by **rehpyc** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:05 pm

Till still plays? Till was a captain? Till doesn't dislike me?

Color me confused.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:21 pm

hildebrand wrote:
Miller` wrote:Not a TERRIBLE idea to allow ringers from the pool of players taken in rounds 6-9.
I second this idea. Be on time for matches, get picked out of a hat.

I third the idea.

stealthlol · Post by **stealthlol** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:15 am

Better yet, get a few servers with 20 spots. Let all ten people on each team join, but only 6 join the teams. Everybody can sit in spec and sub in every few minutes.

mogers · Post by **mogers** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:06 am

I am extremely excited to play WITH Austin instead of always being on the other end of his gun.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:12 am

mogers wrote:instead of always being on the other end of his gun.

Yeah... it gets rough... being on the end of his gun...

mmm

stealthlol · Post by **stealthlol** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:37 am

Just saw the bracket. What's this nonsense about Logic Land not geting to play lennon?!

mogers · Post by **mogers** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:21 am

Rob wrote:
mogers wrote:instead of always being on the other end of his gun.
Yeah... it gets rough... being on the end of his gun...

mmm

and by gun I obviously mean his penis.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:42 am

What?

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:32 am

Link: Full Bracket

It is kind of strange how you have part of the second round of the bracket playing Lennon on the 13th, but teams that have a bye (Logic Land/Anzio) play Anzio on the 16th?

Narc · Post by **Narc** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:49 am

I was giving him shit about the draft taking too long. So I had him squeeze matches to make it as short as possible. So you can blame that on me. The longer the draft the longer we gotta wait for season 27.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:54 am

Yeah, just seems strange to have teams play different maps in the same round, shouldn't all the 2nd round matches play Anzio?

I also don't think it's the end of the world if you have to push Season 27 back a little bit. Might be a bad time to start back up right away anyway with the holidays around the corner.

kicken55 · Post by **kicken55** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:12 am

sears you made an error in that btw you have c and e in first round losers when it should be d and f

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:25 am

kicken55 wrote:sears you made an error in that btw you have c and e in first round losers when it should be d and f

I can't control it actually. You just plug in the seeds and Challonge programs the bracket for you according to what type you want.

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:30 am

all the second round matches for the upper bracket are on anzio.. i have 2 of the upper bracket matches playing this sunday so the losers bracket can get started sooner..

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:39 am

toxinatoR wrote:all the second round matches for the upper bracket are on anzio.. i have 2 of the upper bracket matches playing this sunday so the losers bracket can get started sooner..

ah ok, that makes sense.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:07 pm

toxinatoR wrote:all the second round matches for the upper bracket are on anzio.. i have 2 of the upper bracket matches playing this sunday so the losers bracket can get started sooner..

I don't understand your brackets because, unfortunately, I don't have a PhD in fucked up shit.

Explain this fucked up shit for me, Professor. Some people play week 1 on lennon and some don't?

JamesDecker · Post by **JamesDecker** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:14 pm

rehpyc wrote:Till still plays? Till was a captain? Till doesn't dislike me?

Color me confused.

Yes. Yes I was pressed into captaincy. No I do not dislike you, should I have a reason to? :p

Check your inbox.

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:18 pm

just simply look at the date... there are no seedings so who ever who plays who in the lower bracket doesnt really matter.. there are matches sunday on both lennon AND anzio.. on the 13th.. the losers of those matches will play on the 16th on harrington.. the winner of the lennon matches advances playing the teams who got a "bye"

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:26 pm

You should schedule my team to play on the 13th since I won't be here for the 16th or 20th.

Nom sayin?

Jb_ · Post by **Jb_** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:29 pm

Goodness, I wish someone would of let me choose our team name. Mad fishy? U SERIOUS BRO? broke english ass nigga.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:32 pm

alex kirk wrote:I don't understand your brackets because, unfortunately, I don't have a PhD in fucked up shit.

Explain this fucked up shit for me, Professor. Some people play week 1 on lennon and some don't?

Basically, yes.

There are only ten teams, so there is essentially a play-in round, as the top 6 seeded teams do not play in the first round.

Where I got confused is that he scheduled the 2 first-round matches and the first 2 second round matches on the same day. So on the 13th, both the 1st and 2nd round are being played at the same time. The second round is then finished later.

It's pretty wacky, it would be a lot better if you could come up with some more teams, and have a full 1st/2nd round.

12 Team Example
14 Team Example
16 Team Example

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:36 pm

Jb_ wrote:Goodness, I wish someone would of let me choose our team name. Mad fishy? U SERIOUS BRO? broke english ass nigga.

you missed the point josh, we have two fishy fishs in our team. you need to use your imagination bro!

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:37 pm

fishy fish's?? wtf??

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:42 pm

Sears wrote:fishy fish's?? wtf??

fishy.

suspicious, shaddy, obtuse, not much legit, unlikely pro

and someone messed up with my team tag which was <*|||><

Jb_ · Post by **Jb_** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:47 pm

gotcha

rymoz · Post by **rymoz** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:04 pm

Sears wrote:It's pretty wacky, it would be a lot better if you could come up with some more teams, and have a full 1st/2nd round.

Then why not add two more teams/captains and redo the draft? It will not only make the brackets/dates easier like Sears said, but stop people from complaining about how there are too many players and not enough teams. I mean, I personally think that the teams might be stretched enough already, but if that's what the majority wants, then TPG should take it into consideration.

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:15 pm

rymoz wrote:
Sears wrote:It's pretty wacky, it would be a lot better if you could come up with some more teams, and have a full 1st/2nd round.
Then why not add two more teams/captains and redo the draft? It will not only make the brackets/dates easier like Sears said, but stop people from complaining about how there are too many players and not enough teams. I mean, I personally think that the teams might be stretched enough already, but if that's what the majority wants, then TPG should take it into consideration.

I second Jules. Draft is supposed to be fun with everyone in the community participating. Have 10 people which likely 3 or 4 will not participate is just lame. I'd be down to redo the draft with 16 captains (with people like ryanemo, taylor, etc) beind the additional captains... C'mon this is meant to share experience with other players, and the way its was build it'll be fun for just a few who were good and got picked before.

Besides though it would delay the tournament start it would also ensure that next TPG season would be in January. Starting TPG in december for playoffs + 1 week is just boring because we will have the christmas + new years eve break.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:24 pm

cassinoroyale wrote:Starting TPG in december for playoffs + 1 week is just boring because we will have the christmas + new years eve break.

This very thing killed CAL once. Better to wait until after the new year to start the regular season imo.

nunz · Post by **nunz** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:36 pm

New Years and Christmas Day are Sundays that's a long wait...

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:46 pm

16 teams with less than 100 ppl.. hmm FOR THE NINTH TIME. WE HAD 8 TEAMS LAST DRAFT. WITH 10 PLAYERS ON EACH TEAM. AND TEAMS COULD STILL NOT FIELD 6.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:49 pm

toxinatoR wrote:16 teams with less than 100 ppl.. hmm FOR THE NINTH TIME. WE HAD 8 TEAMS LAST DRAFT. WITH 10 PLAYERS ON EACH TEAM. AND TEAMS COULD STILL NOT FIELD 6.

Jules, you're making Tox angry.

Pls stop...before he starts aimbotting in 12mans AGAIN.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:55 pm

rymoz · Post by **rymoz** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:06 pm

toxinatoR wrote:16 teams with less than 100 ppl.. hmm FOR THE NINTH TIME. WE HAD 8 TEAMS LAST DRAFT. WITH 10 PLAYERS ON EACH TEAM. AND TEAMS COULD STILL NOT FIELD 6.

rymoz wrote:Then why not add two more teams/captains and redo the draft?

rymoz wrote:I personally think that the teams might be stretched enough already, but if that's what the majority wants, then TPG should take it into consideration.

alex kirk wrote:Jules, you're making Tox angry.

Pls stop...before he starts aimbotting in 12mans AGAIN.

He's ALWAYS fucking cheating.

mogers · Post by **mogers** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:28 pm

Sears wrote:

EYES BLEEDING FOREVER

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:55 pm

toxinatoR wrote:16 teams with less than 100 ppl.. hmm FOR THE NINTH TIME. WE HAD 8 TEAMS LAST DRAFT. WITH 10 PLAYERS ON EACH TEAM. AND TEAMS COULD STILL NOT FIELD 6.

y u screaming? umad? he mad!

milo · Post by **milo** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:02 pm

cassinoroyale wrote:
Jb_ wrote:Goodness, I wish someone would of let me choose our team name. Mad fishy? U SERIOUS BRO? broke english ass nigga.
you missed the point josh, we have two fishy fishs in our team. you need to use your imagination bro!

Cass, I went negative in that 3v3 match. I'm terrible

rehpyc · Post by **rehpyc** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:33 pm

Sears wrote:
alex kirk wrote:I don't understand your brackets because, unfortunately, I don't have a PhD in fucked up shit.

Explain this fucked up shit for me, Professor. Some people play week 1 on lennon and some don't?
Basically, yes.

There are only ten teams, so there is essentially a play-in round, as the top 6 seeded teams do not play in the first round.

A "play-in round" based on seeds? Where did seeds even come from.. how were they allocated? Pick a number of teams that fit a properly structured bracket. This may not have every player chosen for a team, but then you simply have them in a list that gets randomly selected from if a team is in need of a ringer.

All I know is jared is going down on Anzio.

Rambizzle · Post by **Rambizzle** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:22 am

Hi, I have a Ph.D in fucking shit up. I wish I could help with this issue but it's beyond my level of expertise.

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:34 am

Rambizzle wrote:Hi, I have a Ph.D in fucking shit up. I wish I could help with this issue but it's beyond my level of expertise.

Was your reaction to seeing the brackets similar to mine?

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:02 am

rehpyc wrote:A "play-in round" based on seeds? Where did seeds even come from.. how were they allocated? Pick a number of teams that fit a properly structured bracket. This may not have every player chosen for a team, but then you simply have them in a list that gets randomly selected from if a team is in need of a ringer.

All I know is jared is going down on Anzio.

All I was saying is that 10 teams makes for a strange double-elimination bracket because you have 6 teams that don't play in the first round.

When you are running a double-elimination bracket, you have to assign a number to each team that tells you were they go when they win or lose. Normally this would be the result of seeding, but in our case it's random.

I wasn't saying that you chose to have a "play-in round", just that one is essentially created when you set up a 10-team double elimination bracket (because only 4 teams play in the first round).

JamesDecker · Post by **JamesDecker** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:36 pm

||.| Team Shocker vs. That Team Jared's On

Anzio, thank god.