Didn't See This Coming....

mike · Post by **mike** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:07 pm

Handle: intowishin
Team: oOoBubblesoOo
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:873476
Start Date: Mar 18 2013
End Date: Apr 18 2013
Rule Violation: 7.4
Reason: Steam Account Trading

Handle: gaul
Team: megas
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:617161
Start Date: Mar 18 2013
End Date: Apr 18 2013
Rule Violation: 7.4
Reason: Steam Account Trading

Looks like Bio goes to finals now..

akiro · Post by **akiro** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:11 pm

Lol we didnt have six, and at least we got to play! Bye bye tpg !

Oh and let's be honest, arn would of shit on them just as hard.

wintehs · Post by **wintehs** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:19 pm

That's unfortunate

Jakimo · Post by **Jakimo** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:20 pm

u used gaul and submitted the score wrong? gg either way. props to tpg ac, half chub to major chub time.

akiro · Post by **akiro** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:24 pm

Lol, like i said, arn would of dumped on you just as badly.

Burntwaffles · Post by **Burntwaffles** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:29 pm

Nicholson · Post by **Nicholson** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:38 pm

Retards these days.. Bad enough you had to sandbag in IM, then you doing this.

akiro · Post by **akiro** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:44 pm

Sandbag im? We got destroyed in main, literally destroyed you fucking tard, last 2 matches we got alex back and we managed to get a few pickups end of the season that helped us. Yet we had NO blowout wins until spec and they were so shorthanded they had 2 ringers. Bio has ex-main players, and you have emachine and mensen, you might not want to call out sandbagging without using your brain there buddy.

Nicholson · Post by **Nicholson** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:13 pm

akiro wrote:Sandbag im? We got destroyed in main, literally destroyed you fucking tard, last 2 matches we got alex back and we managed to get a few pickups end of the season that helped us. Yet we had NO blowout wins until spec and they were so shorthanded they had 2 ringers. Bio has ex-main players, and you have emachine and mensen, you might not want to call out sandbagging without using your brain there buddy.

Someone's mad they got caught?
Let me put it this way to you, I'll make it really simple.
You have a team with two invite level players on it. Along with a team of main level people who could easily compete if they played the game instead of complaining about everything under the sun to do with DOD and TPG in 2013.

Yes, we have Mensen and E-Machine. Both solid players playing in a level below their own. We also have pub/open level players on our team to balance it out. Those players who started for us all season.

Do you see other teams crying on the forums (ALMOST WEEKLY) about losing their matches? No.
Do you see us crying about scheduling the same South Americans you cry about scheduling? No.
You're some stupid butt hurt nerd who cries on the forums on a daily basis about stupid shit;
Also the same nerd who people pick fights with just for fun.
You clearly need to use your brain for a little more then just something to fill empty space. Thanks.

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:11 am

moosh wrote:Oh lawd Nicholson be taking it srs.

whoah whoah look what we have here

(this isn't directed to bubbles coz but) i wonder how nice of a thread moosh would likely dump on 1911 if it was the other way around. spicing things up, especially if it was SA team using someone using someone else's account to play an IM playoffs match. like, hmmm, toxinator filling d7 formiga's role.

sweet irony is sweet.

stile · Post by **stile** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:32 am

Do players in IM/Open even know about 1911?

akiro · Post by **akiro** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:23 am

Yes, I'm obviously the butthurt nerd.

Joshinator · Post by **Joshinator** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:40 am

stile wrote:Do players in IM/Open even know about 1911?

A select few.

SnoopS · Post by **SnoopS** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:49 am

Todo · Post by **Todo** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:24 am

So we've had TPG admins themselves ring against us multiple times in the last couple seasons, playoffs included, and people advertise their ringing services on 1911 all the time, but this time we're going to pretend it's illegal? Doesn't add up.

taylor · Post by **taylor** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:30 am

Todo wrote:So we've had TPG admins themselves ring against us multiple times in the last couple seasons, playoffs included, and people advertise their ringing services on 1911 all the time, but this time we're going to pretend it's illegal? Doesn't add up.

its not legal to have somebody else log onto another players account to act like him or her when the rostered player is at work or something.

nunz · Post by **nunz** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:32 am

Todo wrote:So we've had TPG admins themselves ring against us multiple times in the last couple seasons, playoffs included, and people advertise their ringing services on 1911 all the time, but this time we're going to pretend it's illegal? Doesn't add up.

your right guys ring all the time but teams disclose who is playing for them. what i can tell is u guys tried to pull a fast one on bio. i mean i realize u.didnt have six but its a playoff match and bio worked hard to be a one seed. its not fair to say everyone does it, there are a bunch of players in im amd even main U could have used with bio knowing. audio actually used three ringers against us but they were the likes of gaul lol. u guys should have used a baddie u probably would have won anyway.

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:37 am

Todo wrote:So we've had TPG admins themselves ring against us multiple times in the last couple seasons, playoffs included, and people advertise their ringing services on 1911 all the time, but this time we're going to pretend it's illegal? Doesn't add up.

you're make a confusion here. there is a huge difference between someone ringing without hiding who he is AND someone pretending to be a given player rostered on your team, using this player steam account. this type of ringing is illegal, informed in the rules section and there is nothing to do with the ringer clause. you tried to bypass this rule as bio wouldnt likely allow you to use gaul. it sure adds up since you only know TPG admins ringed against you multiple times because they didn't hide who they were to begin with.

Todo · Post by **Todo** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:16 am

cassinoroyale wrote:you're make a confusion here. there is a huge difference between someone ringing without hiding who he is AND someone pretending to be a given player rostered on your team, using this player steam account.

What if gaul had hopped on and we had employed the "no hablo ingles" strategy you and your buddies pulled last season until they were forced to accept, would that have been cool? Just trying to figure out which technicalities you all have been able to rationalize and which are still taboo.

As for nunz, I wasn't there, so I have no idea if we were trying to pull a fast one. I do know that there aren't many ringers out there who would be much of an upgrade over arn, and I don't mean that as a slight to gaul.

Anyone care to say how this got caught anyway? Seems surprising. And, to my knowledge, there was no dispute from bio either.

ryanemo · Post by **ryanemo** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:17 am

i'll be playing in the finals, c u then

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:51 am

Todo wrote:
cassinoroyale wrote:you're make a confusion here. there is a huge difference between someone ringing without hiding who he is AND someone pretending to be a given player rostered on your team, using this player steam account.
What if gaul had hopped on and we had employed the "no hablo ingles" strategy you and your buddies pulled last season until they were forced to accept, would that have been cool? Just trying to figure out which technicalities you all have been able to rationalize and which are still taboo.

First of all, I didn't hide who I was. Secondly, I might write broken but I understand english just fine and there were no language confusion back then. I asked if I could ring stating that umad didn't had 6 and wanted to lose playing 6v6 rather 5v6. Akiro eventually said OK for me to ring for the sake of a fair 6v6 match. I was never been asked formaly to leave the server. I reckon that you were likely flooding defiance with complaints about me, that's why. I played and you ended up winning not only the match but the season as well. You should move on regarding that matter coz that's nothing to do with someone using someone else's account (multi-accounting). Like I've said it before, the way you back up one another is amazing even though I was just flaming moosh (and not your team) a little bit. Yet you act butthurt for something not even close.

Todo wrote:Anyone care to say how this got caught anyway? Seems surprising. And, to my knowledge, there was no dispute from bio either.

We have found out that gaul played running IP checks that we always do everytime people get disputed (Yeah, BIO have disputed arn).

wintehs · Post by **wintehs** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:45 am

vpaz wrote:Maybe now these retards will quit for good (again) and we won't have to see them crying on every single predictions thread, anymore. Thank god.

Somebody's jimmies are definitely rustled

SKiNnTo · Post by **SKiNnTo** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:59 am

Stark says, dats soooooo cool, I just laugh.

Todo · Post by **Todo** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:21 am

I didn't say you hid who you were. And I get that you understand English quite well, but as I recall that didn't seem to matter. After 20 minutes of you guys ACTING like you don't speak English, we gave up and played the match.

I wasn't butthurt then, I'm not butthurt now, and I don't think I've said a word to defiance in like 7 years, but here is my point: a ringer is a ringer is a ringer is a ringer. This league is lax about ringers now, and that's a fact. Distinguishing between types of ringers is just semantics.

And I'm not asking this to be an asshole, but the verb conjugation is a little off -- you're saying bio disputed arn this time and that's how you found out?

nunz · Post by **nunz** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:20 am

Todo wrote:
cassinoroyale wrote:you're make a confusion here. there is a huge difference between someone ringing without hiding who he is AND someone pretending to be a given player rostered on your team, using this player steam account.
What if gaul had hopped on and we had employed the "no hablo ingles" strategy you and your buddies pulled last season until they were forced to accept, would that have been cool? Just trying to figure out which technicalities you all have been able to rationalize and which are still taboo.

As for nunz, I wasn't there, so I have no idea if we were trying to pull a fast one. I do know that there aren't many ringers out there who would be much of an upgrade over arn, and I don't mean that as a slight to gaul.

Anyone care to say how this got caught anyway? Seems surprising. And, to my knowledge, there was no dispute from bio either.

I dont know if u were either its just how it appears. You cant really employ the Arn is better than anyone angle anyway. He's on your roster and your lucky enough to be in IM with him there and that might be because he doesnt show up often. Like I said you guys are good enough to win IM without Arn anyway, and there are a million people asking to ring especially with more than half of the community knocked out of the playoffs. At the end of the day you guys dont really care anyway so it doesnt matter its just too bad you tried to win a IM match that badly, im sure BIO would have allowed a decent ringer anyhow, its also not their fault u lack 6 roster players.

Sears · Post by **Sears** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:38 pm

Buncha sand in a buncha vaginas.

ward · Post by **ward** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:15 pm

The butthurt in this thread is approaching critical levels.

hildebrand · Post by **hildebrand** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:15 pm

crawtona · Post by **crawtona** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:29 pm

I AM SOOO ANGRY RIGHT NOW

Jakimo · Post by **Jakimo** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:30 pm

I finally got some fotw i could submit. fun match

mogers · Post by **mogers** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:26 pm

If the person that was missing is arn, then what the fuck does it matter what ringer they used. Kids the best dod player this side of the equator. Grow up. Also, I'm guessing someone ratted you out, if there was no dispute.

Unreal · Post by **Unreal** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:34 pm

Dammit, now I have to play next week.

Jakimo · Post by **Jakimo** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:33 pm

yea, you either got ratted out or we knew all along and let you win knowing the whole time...

gaulz · Post by **gaulz** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:43 pm

I agree no one saw this coming.

rehpyc · Post by **rehpyc** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:45 pm

hildebrand wrote:

p.s. may want to check the ip used on my account with thunder's chemille match. it may match that of a certain marko brother.

crawtona · Post by **crawtona** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:52 pm

mogers wrote:If the person that was missing is arn, then what the fuck does it matter what ringer they used. Kids the best dod player this side of the equator. Grow up. Also, I'm guessing someone ratted you out, if there was no dispute.

As arn's stateside liason, I endorse this message.

crawtona · Post by **crawtona** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:06 pm

gaulz wrote:I agree no one saw this coming.

I have to say, gaul, your showing in the match was quite...laudable.

Todo · Post by **Todo** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:37 am

Issue is raised. South American conveniently goes quiet. World continues to spin.

As for vpaz, curiosity crept in: if aa refers to alkaholicks and tm refers to trademark, I must know who you are. Other names?

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:54 am

moosh wrote:What irks me is that Cass would lie about you guys disputing.

Actually it's the other way around. I don't need to make up things, especially if I happen to be a league admin. There is no way to know this beforehand without someone pointing us that a certain rule wasn't respected. That's why we have the whole dispute system in first place, right? And for the record, I never had any issue with your previous team (since you guys died) and I've said it countless times. I just don't like you. That's all.

Btw, I've pm'd you the dispute request made by someone in BIO. Let's see if this can clear things up for better.