dod promod?
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dod promod?
Hey guys, I dont know if anyone has ever thought of a dod promod but i thought i would bring it up to everyone. Having source graphics with the 1.3 engine like they did in cspromod would be interesting. Also I think bringing the source and 1.3 community together could make maybe start the old flame and bring some new faces/ old faces back. Just an idea though. Cheers 
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Re: dod promod?
tried and failed
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Re: dod promod?
they were trying to make a promod like 2 or 3 years ago, it failed.
they used the source engine but removed a lot of typical source things, like those nades you fire like rockets, they brought back the pistol etc.
they used the source engine but removed a lot of typical source things, like those nades you fire like rockets, they brought back the pistol etc.
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I tried out dod pro when it was first released and I thought it had the potential to be quite good, you can see the changes listed here - https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Prodod
Stuff like removing ambient noise being the equivalent to stopsound etc were all really cool little changes that would have made for a great competitive mod.
It was a shame the community didn't get behind it, I would imagine a lot of work went into it for the sake of the 1.3ers that wanted to play source but were disappointed with how source played but sometimes people just can't be bothered to support a project like that..
Stuff like removing ambient noise being the equivalent to stopsound etc were all really cool little changes that would have made for a great competitive mod.
It was a shame the community didn't get behind it, I would imagine a lot of work went into it for the sake of the 1.3ers that wanted to play source but were disappointed with how source played but sometimes people just can't be bothered to support a project like that..
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Re: dod promod?
i implemented this in the source league when it was first released, not many people liked it.daddy wrote:Hey guys, I dont know if anyone has ever thought of a dod promod but i thought i would bring it up to everyone. Having source graphics with the 1.3 engine like they did in cspromod would be interesting. Also I think bringing the source and 1.3 community together could make maybe start the old flame and bring some new faces/ old faces back. Just an idea though. Cheers
It still wasnt good enough for the 1.3 kids, and it made the source kids worse, so both sides hated it.
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The source kids are obviously satisfied with source, otherwise they wouldnt have changed game.
The once that want a fix is the 1.3ers. So if there's gonna be a promod, it needs to be based on the hl 1 engine, not source.
I would just love 1.3 to become open source so we could fix all glitches and bugs ourselfs, thats all thats needed.
The once that want a fix is the 1.3ers. So if there's gonna be a promod, it needs to be based on the hl 1 engine, not source.
I would just love 1.3 to become open source so we could fix all glitches and bugs ourselfs, thats all thats needed.
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The reason source players like source is because of the graphics. If anyone could make a game that had hl1 engine with the source graphics i think both communities could come together and there would be twice as much competition. I'm just throwing out idea's i had no idea of the dod pro game and i would like to give it a try.
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Re: dod promod?
that couldnt be more incorrect. the play style was completely different. You could do things strat-wise in source that simply arent possible in 1.3.daddy wrote:The reason source players like source is because of the graphics
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the competitive mod they used for a few seasons or whatever seemed to do the job for me. The things that that fixed, fixed the major things i really hated about the game (no pistols with all classes, and the 2 shot kar etc.)
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emc brought it back recently and was testing it again but I think the popularity wasn't there
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The source 'kids' didn't get worst but it actually made the game unbalanced.twist wrote:i implemented this in the source league when it was first released, not many people liked it.daddy wrote:Hey guys, I dont know if anyone has ever thought of a dod promod but i thought i would bring it up to everyone. Having source graphics with the 1.3 engine like they did in cspromod would be interesting. Also I think bringing the source and 1.3 community together could make maybe start the old flame and bring some new faces/ old faces back. Just an idea though. Cheers
It still wasnt good enough for the 1.3 kids, and it made the source kids worse, so both sides hated it.
The garand didn't work as a 1 shot kill to the chest/head because it became too OP in source (it stayed a 2 hit kill), and the bar wasn't overpowered enough to compensate for the kar considering the STG. Not only that but the carbine was made into its own class but also became too 'OP' because certain ppl actually knew how to click.
People were also exploiting. For example one thing they did was using custom ctx files and bypassing the server side ctx leading to guns having no recoil. There was also some server side exploits from what I heard.
It was just too much of a pain with exploits, lack of balance, and a hassle to teach tards how to install.
tl;dr - I personally liked the changes because it made the game feel fresh. Dods may be shitty but atleast it's balanced (learn 2 garand). Lastly, the promod can't fix the regless hitboxes of dods.
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Re: dod promod?
this kid's post pretty much sums up the problems we had with prodod (not the individual issues, but the mentality).Arachnid wrote:The source 'kids' didn't get worst but it actually made the game unbalanced.twist wrote:i implemented this in the source league when it was first released, not many people liked it.daddy wrote:Hey guys, I dont know if anyone has ever thought of a dod promod but i thought i would bring it up to everyone. Having source graphics with the 1.3 engine like they did in cspromod would be interesting. Also I think bringing the source and 1.3 community together could make maybe start the old flame and bring some new faces/ old faces back. Just an idea though. Cheers
It still wasnt good enough for the 1.3 kids, and it made the source kids worse, so both sides hated it.
The garand didn't work as a 1 shot kill to the chest/head because it became to OP in source, and the bar wasn't overpowered enough to compensate for the kar considering the STG. Not only that but the carbine was made into its own class but also became to 'OP' because certain ppl actually knew how to click.
People were also exploiting. For example one thing they did was using custom ctx files and bypassing the server side ctx leading to guns having no recoil. There was also some server side exploits from what I heard.
It was just too much of a pain with exploits, lack of balance, and a hassle to teach tards how to install.
tl;dr - I personally liked the changes because it made the game feel fresh. Dods may be shitty but atleast it's balanced (learn 2 garand). Lastly, the promod can't fix the regless hitboxes of dods.
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The cone of fire mod that is on some pub servers with the 1 shot kar, pistols on rifles, is a ridiculously fun game. It would make competitive dod/source infinitely better than what the current game provides. However, I remember some of the source maps being really terrible. The railroad2 one (not rails, but the stock source one) is really garbage if I remember correctly.greetz wrote:the competitive mod they used for a few seasons or whatever seemed to do the job for me. The things that that fixed, fixed the major things i really hated about the game (no pistols with all classes, and the 2 shot kar etc.)
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knockout wrote:The cone of fire mod that is on some pub servers with the 1 shot kar, pistols on rifles, is a ridiculously fun game. It would make competitive dod/source infinitely better than what the current game provides. However, I remember some of the source maps being really terrible. The railroad2 one (not rails, but the stock source one) is really garbage if I remember correctly.greetz wrote:the competitive mod they used for a few seasons or whatever seemed to do the job for me. The things that that fixed, fixed the major things i really hated about the game (no pistols with all classes, and the 2 shot kar etc.)
wasn't the stock one on an ocean with a boathouse rather than a railroad?
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look at your source-loving face around the 1.3 scene now :p did the source scene finally die? good to see you around.Arachnid wrote:The source 'kids' didn't get worst but it actually made the game unbalanced.
The garand didn't work as a 1 shot kill to the chest/head because it became too OP in source (it stayed a 2 hit kill), and the bar wasn't overpowered enough to compensate for the kar considering the STG. Not only that but the carbine was made into its own class but also became too 'OP' because certain ppl actually knew how to click.
People were also exploiting. For example one thing they did was using custom ctx files and bypassing the server side ctx leading to guns having no recoil. There was also some server side exploits from what I heard.
It was just too much of a pain with exploits, lack of balance, and a hassle to teach tards how to install.
tl;dr - I personally liked the changes because it made the game feel fresh. Dods may be shitty but atleast it's balanced (learn 2 garand). Lastly, the promod can't fix the regless hitboxes of dods.
part of the problem was the 2 people heading up the project (wish I could remember names..); the guy doing the coding was chill, but his friend that was dictating changes was an idiot that had to have things his way compared to accepting community input. there were also just too many variables to account for to provide a good balance, and the gorilla arm hitboxes didn't help. the cone of fire and pistal mod alone were a good step in the right direction, though.
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Re: dod promod?
Ben Gloin did the coding; his idiot roommate RedComet ruined shit.rehpyc wrote:look at your source-loving face around the 1.3 scene now :p did the source scene finally die? good to see you around.Arachnid wrote:The source 'kids' didn't get worst but it actually made the game unbalanced.
The garand didn't work as a 1 shot kill to the chest/head because it became too OP in source (it stayed a 2 hit kill), and the bar wasn't overpowered enough to compensate for the kar considering the STG. Not only that but the carbine was made into its own class but also became too 'OP' because certain ppl actually knew how to click.
People were also exploiting. For example one thing they did was using custom ctx files and bypassing the server side ctx leading to guns having no recoil. There was also some server side exploits from what I heard.
It was just too much of a pain with exploits, lack of balance, and a hassle to teach tards how to install.
tl;dr - I personally liked the changes because it made the game feel fresh. Dods may be shitty but atleast it's balanced (learn 2 garand). Lastly, the promod can't fix the regless hitboxes of dods.
part of the problem was the 2 people heading up the project (wish I could remember names..); the guy doing the coding was chill, but his friend that was dictating changes was an idiot that had to have things his way compared to accepting community input. there were also just too many variables to account for to provide a good balance, and the gorilla arm hitboxes didn't help. the cone of fire and pistal mod alone were a good step in the right direction, though.
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Those were the names! Nah RC was the one that did the coding, and Gloin was the complete idiot.twist wrote:Ben Gloin did the coding; his idiot roommate RedComet ruined shit.
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Yeah, it's pretty damn close.rehpyc wrote: look at your source-loving face around the 1.3 scene now :p did the source scene finally die? good to see you around.
1.3 scene is more fun atm (especially as a randy noob) so I should be sticking around until crono or sh0ts gets banned.
agreed.rehpyc wrote: and the gorilla arm hitboxes didn't help. the cone of fire and pistal mod alone were a good step in the right direction, though.
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Re: dod promod?
I heard that the (-) cone of fire mod that are featured on these servers was made by Taylor, whose shots goes directly to where he aims quite flawlessly. Dude is pretty nuts!knockout wrote:The cone of fire mod that is on some pub servers with the 1 shot kar, pistols on rifles, is a ridiculously fun game. It would make competitive dod/source infinitely better than what the current game provides. However, I remember some of the source maps being really terrible. The railroad2 one (not rails, but the stock source one) is really garbage if I remember correctly.greetz wrote:the competitive mod they used for a few seasons or whatever seemed to do the job for me. The things that that fixed, fixed the major things i really hated about the game (no pistols with all classes, and the 2 shot kar etc.)

it's just a joke, taylor!
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wasn't it called salerno or palermo or something? i kind of liked the different take on rr even though i liked rr2_b2 better.AlopeX wrote:knockout wrote:The cone of fire mod that is on some pub servers with the 1 shot kar, pistols on rifles, is a ridiculously fun game. It would make competitive dod/source infinitely better than what the current game provides. However, I remember some of the source maps being really terrible. The railroad2 one (not rails, but the stock source one) is really garbage if I remember correctly.greetz wrote:the competitive mod they used for a few seasons or whatever seemed to do the job for me. The things that that fixed, fixed the major things i really hated about the game (no pistols with all classes, and the 2 shot kar etc.)
wasn't the stock one on an ocean with a boathouse rather than a railroad?
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graphics has nothing to do with why people still play source. Game is played slightly different and it is also faster pace. IMO i'd love to see everyone on one site instead of split but heck doubt that will happen due to egos. Hi sean kalas <3 do A BARREL ROLL
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Played source for one season, played in the main division, was better than everyone else right away, game was 2ez, thanks and goodnight.
To people who still play source - is Mr. Majestyk still around? Dude was chill as fuqq.
To people who still play source - is Mr. Majestyk still around? Dude was chill as fuqq.
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No art isn't playing source he is still around talk to him from time to time thru texts he's been playing csgo with his bro at times.alex kirk wrote:Played source for one season, played in the main division, was better than everyone else right away, game was 2ez, thanks and goodnight.
To people who still play source - is Mr. Majestyk still around? Dude was chill as fuqq.
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I won a DoD:S tournament at pdxlan circa 2005?
BAR seemed ezmode, rifle grenades are really stupid, garand really broken, iron sights lol.
BAR seemed ezmode, rifle grenades are really stupid, garand really broken, iron sights lol.
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Next time you talk to him you let him know that Alex Kirk misses his soothing voice and ginger beard.Crono wrote:No art isn't playing source he is still around talk to him from time to time thru texts he's been playing csgo with his bro at times.
Those last three words sum up DoD:S for me. It's like adding insult to injury, at that point.Sears wrote:I won a DoD:S tournament at pdxlan circa 2005?
BAR seemed ezmode, rifle grenades are really stupid, garand really broken, iron sights lol.
DoD:S creator #1: Okay we've fucked this game up beyond repair. Any last touches?
DoD:S creator #2: Iron sights.
DoD:S creator #1: loldoingit #yolo.
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Just played a DoD:S 12man and that game still blows.
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i mean 1.3 looks like the shit i just flushed so... unless you like playing with shit we should really consider trying this another time 
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Game play > graphics.daddy wrote:i mean 1.3 looks like the shit i just flushed so... unless you like playing with shit we should really consider trying this another time
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CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOdaddy wrote:i mean 1.3 looks like the shit i just flushed so... unless you like playing with shit we should really consider trying this another time

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This. Plus, in my opinion, the graphics aren't bad. I'd much rather play a game that looks like 1.3 than something like CoD, BF, or DoD:S were the maps are cluttered with barrels and random shit to make it look "real."alex kirk wrote:Game play > graphics.daddy wrote:i mean 1.3 looks like the shit i just flushed so... unless you like playing with shit we should really consider trying this another time
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Ironsights are for faggots.cassinoroyale wrote:CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOdaddy wrote:i mean 1.3 looks like the shit i just flushed so... unless you like playing with shit we should really consider trying this another time
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stealthlol wrote:This. Plus, in my opinion, the graphics aren't bad. I'd much rather play a game that looks like 1.3 than something like CoD, BF, or DoD:S were the maps are cluttered with barrels and random shit to make it look "real."alex kirk wrote:Game play > graphics.daddy wrote:i mean 1.3 looks like the shit i just flushed so... unless you like playing with shit we should really consider trying this another time

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honestly does anyone want to buy me 1.3? im broke
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Yeah I hear $5 is hard to come by nowadays.daddy wrote:honestly does anyone want to buy me 1.3? im broke
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just now noticed the team listed on your current/previous teams, daddy.. this isn't the hijacked of DoD:S?.. cause I'd have to ask who you even are
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dod:s Pro Mod: 2ez

