DCN Finals

jigsawww · Post by **jigsawww** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:38 am

Onlan stars aka THUNDER vs Online stars aka FLAWLESS

GLHF

posted this here because you can't make a new topic in predictions.

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:30 am

Jb_ · Post by **Jb_** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:42 pm

Oh boy this is gonna be awsome, Im gonnaa pop me some popcorn for this one! I dont think the flawless kids nerves will be able to handle a bunch of eyes in hltv, I will call this a thunder roll!

jigsawww · Post by **jigsawww** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:45 pm

Match will be on Tuesday not tonight if you hltv eyes where wondering so don't put that popcorn in tonight jb.

hypnotik_ · Post by **hypnotik_** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:57 pm

I bet jb's popcorn it gets delayed three weeks

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:34 pm

HLTV - 69.28.220.169:27021

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:14 pm

gg was played pretty gay but congrats!

rehpyc · Post by **rehpyc** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:29 pm

gg. back to a hiatus until next finals, again.

ryanemo · Post by **ryanemo** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:31 pm

so taylor, i was blatantly cheating in a draft match on harrington while i rang for you? and as you put it "tracing people through walls" ? would expect someone i've played against on multiple times online AND lan to not be as big of an idiot as yourself, but unfortunately i was wrong about that one.

edit: and unfortunately its because of people like you that are making me seriously reconsider even playing anymore. you suck the fun out of it when all i hear is how blatant i am. my play style is the exact same, we can post demos from this season and demos from ky lan and watch them right next to eachother and the only difference you'll see is me not taking as many risky shots. it was funny for the first season, and now going on i dont even know how many seasons listening to it it's doing nothing but annoying me and making me not even want to bother playing or helping the community anymore at all.

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:46 pm

yea i thought you were cheating. sorry? lol

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:48 pm

Played pretty gay? Did you spec your heavy partner at all?

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:11 pm

toxinatoR wrote:Played pretty gay? Did you spec your heavy partner at all?

what'd he do? hide in mid house for 40 minutes?

toxinatoR · Post by **toxinatoR** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:33 pm

We lost by like 10 first half then got 2 quick caps allied side.. There's no need to keep pushing to try and cap you hold at that point.. Its called playing smart while you're ahead... There is no need to "push" mid.. Once you have the lead.. I thought the match was intense and fun.. Only "gay" play I saw or encountered was milo proning here and there and lurking in sewers..

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:38 pm

toxinatoR wrote:We lost by like 10 first half then got 2 quick caps allied side.. There's no need to keep pushing to try and cap you hold at that point.. Its called playing smart while you're ahead... There is no need to "push" mid.. Once you have the lead.. I thought the match was intense and fun.. Only "gay" play I saw or encountered was milo proning here and there and lurking in sewers..

yea i guess that was pretty gay of him.. i never saw ryan prone at all

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:22 pm

kirk · Post by **kirk** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:23 pm

rehpyc · Post by **rehpyc** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:53 pm

when you have one person covering mid and 3 guys rushing him (you often rushed from the stairs and rope ladder at the same time).. of course he's going to play pretty defensively. if corey had to do that, it's probably because I was choosing to run around and play like a retard for frags, such as quite a few of your teammates do in scrims/matches I've played in/watched. the only time I play these days is when a starter and bencher (dyelife) can't make it, which isn't often, and still it's easy to keep up with your team. it's easy for teams like coL and thunder to continually dominate when most other teams consist mostly of players who run around looking for frags individually rather than work with each other.

greetz · Post by **greetz** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:01 am

out of all the matches ive played with flawless we really didnt try for any retarded frags , or atleast i didnt. from my perspective in vent , that was the hardest we tried to act as a team ever.

unpro · Post by **unpro** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:10 am

large difference between trying to play as a team, and actually playing as a team. you need role players to play as a team successfully. someone needs to be the bitch and play the gay spots and the hard to hold areas well(even if that means proning and playing really gay). thunder knows this, and has that willingness to do it that most(all) teams these days just dont have.

playing a game for that long at higher levels kinda leads naturally to that play style as well. its easy to figure it out when everyone knows how the other plays. its the same with every comp game played in team play, you always need that 1 person willing to sacrifice there entire score to get the rest of the team kills and points and hold the hard to handle spots with enough skill to mean you win after they die even without killing anyone.

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:13 am

unpro wrote:large difference between trying to play as a team, and actually playing as a team. you need role players to play as a team successfully. someone needs to be the bitch and play the gay spots and the hard to hold areas well(even if that means proning and playing really gay). thunder knows this, and has that willingness to do it that most(all) teams these days just dont have.

playing a game for that long at higher levels kinda leads naturally to that play style as well. its easy to figure it out when everyone knows how the other plays. its the same with every comp game played in team play, you always need that 1 person willing to sacrifice there entire score to get the rest of the team kills and points and hold the hard to handle spots with enough skill to mean you win after they die even without killing anyone.

well that settles it.. glad to hear you're the bitch for thunder corey hahahah

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:15 am

rehpyc wrote:when you have one person covering mid and 3 guys rushing him (you often rushed from the stairs and rope ladder at the same time).. of course he's going to play pretty defensively. if corey had to do that, it's probably because I was choosing to run around and play like a retard for frags, such as quite a few of your teammates do in scrims/matches I've played in/watched. the only time I play these days is when a starter and bencher (dyelife) can't make it, which isn't often, and still it's easy to keep up with your team. it's easy for teams like coL and thunder to continually dominate when most other teams consist mostly of players who run around looking for frags individually rather than work with each other.

hiding in mid house is not playing "defensively".. it's just hiding.. also, other teams have team work, but they don't have the experience in a 6 man roster than thunder does.

EDIT: also another reason thunder should have tried having two teams.. it's obvious every season that they're going to win lol.. (unless austin, joey, and i are on a team together)

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:20 am

unpro wrote:large difference between trying to play as a team, and actually playing as a team. you need role players to play as a team successfully. someone needs to be the bitch and play the gay spots and the hard to hold areas well(even if that means proning and playing really gay). thunder knows this, and has that willingness to do it that most(all) teams these days just dont have.

playing a game for that long at higher levels kinda leads naturally to that play style as well. its easy to figure it out when everyone knows how the other plays. its the same with every comp game played in team play, you always need that 1 person willing to sacrifice there entire score to get the rest of the team kills and points and hold the hard to handle spots with enough skill to mean you win after they die even without killing anyone.

did you even watch the match? i'm not sure why you're criticizing our teamwork if you didn't even see how the match was played lol.

code_red · Post by **code_red** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:29 am

unpro WHO DO U THINK U ARE BRO? u must be more brain damaged than i thought after i dropped that 90 on u, ur done SO done. remember at socal u followed everyone around and silently ball rided them when they were alone so nobody noticed? even when u smelled and nobody liked u? just u wait when u land on Montreal and pay me 20 million and then you'll be crying and wishing u were DONE.

JaGGoNdd · Post by **JaGGoNdd** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:26 am

i think this is all really hilarious. it was a good match and suddenly because taylor couldn't win after practicing for 3 weeks it was the end of the world. youve played me on harrington enough times and seen me play on harrington enough times to know i will almost always go into mid house on allies and hide if our team starts dying. people in 12man even check it, even idiots like tilljim check it, and you guys didnt twice and it cost you two mid caps. learn from it. first half i was raping you. i saved us from being capped on by "hiding and playing gay" and your team even knew where i was and i STILL hit both shots on both guys looking at me. thats called skill. you can hide all you want but when it comes down to the clutch shot in those situations its about not missing it.

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:32 am

no need to make it personal lol.. congrats. i guess my 3 weeks of practice wasn't enough

unpro · Post by **unpro** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:59 am

hXc wrote:
unpro wrote:large difference between trying to play as a team, and actually playing as a team. you need role players to play as a team successfully. someone needs to be the bitch and play the gay spots and the hard to hold areas well(even if that means proning and playing really gay). thunder knows this, and has that willingness to do it that most(all) teams these days just dont have.

playing a game for that long at higher levels kinda leads naturally to that play style as well. its easy to figure it out when everyone knows how the other plays. its the same with every comp game played in team play, you always need that 1 person willing to sacrifice there entire score to get the rest of the team kills and points and hold the hard to handle spots with enough skill to mean you win after they die even without killing anyone.
did you even watch the match? i'm not sure why you're criticizing our teamwork if you didn't even see how the match was played lol.

i was responding to greetz saying that you guys where trying very hard with the teamwork aspect, and yea.. if your insulting his play because he shit on you guys while "playing gay" then obviously your teamwork wasnt up to par. jaggons post reiterates it perfectly, hes always in mid house. hell i know that and i rarely touch dod. you guys not working correctly as a team is what enables him to do that in matches and get away with it over and over.

so yea, you got beat because they worked better as a team. i dont see why you guys are so upset over that, it happens.

milo · Post by **milo** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:06 am

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Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:21 am

Playing as mid-parter with Corey on harrytown with moi in the draft was easily the best mid-parter I have had since Tommy "Showtime" Murray's random ass with nwP. He plays very smart and communicates well.

CharlieGiteau · Post by **CharlieGiteau** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:33 am

Best part of this thread is that EVERYONE ignored the troll's post, lolololol. Fail aliased troll is fail!

blech · Post by **blech** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:21 am

Schmiggs wrote:Playing as mid-parter with Corey on harrytown with moi in the draft was easily the best mid-parter I have had since Tommy "Showtime" Murray's random ass with nwP. He plays very smart and communicates well.

I played mid with Corey once (Socal).. He just stood on my head and tried to get noscopes..

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:02 am

quite entertaining

sevEN · Post by **sevEN** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:33 am

CharlieGiteau wrote:Best part of this thread is that EVERYONE ignored the troll's post, lolololol. Fail aliased troll is fail!

lol i was thinking the same thing brah.

james- · Post by **james-** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:49 am

Apparently TPG finals aren't made of dreams.

Anyways, glad to see this website being used for proper flame wars.

Jee · Post by **Jee** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:57 am

code jiggy young red

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:24 am

unpro wrote:i was responding to greetz saying that you guys where trying very hard with the teamwork aspect, and yea.. if your insulting his play because he shit on you guys while "playing gay" then obviously your teamwork wasnt up to par. jaggons post reiterates it perfectly, hes always in mid house. hell i know that and i rarely touch dod. you guys not working correctly as a team is what enables him to do that in matches and get away with it over and over.

so yea, you got beat because they worked better as a team. i dont see why you guys are so upset over that, it happens.

i don't think shooting people in the back is necessarily "shitting on people". it's not like he was just in the right place at the right time to break mid.. we would literally kill 3 of his team mates in mid, and before we would even kill all of those players there would already be another player in mid house baiting all of them, hiding, and not making a sound lol.. and there isn't much you can do when the player finds a new spot to hide every single time.

cassinoroyale · Post by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:26 am

CharlieGiteau wrote:Best part of this thread is that EVERYONE ignored the troll's post, lolololol. Fail aliased troll is fail!

CharlieGiteau · Post by **CharlieGiteau** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:26 am

Jee wrote:code jiggy young red

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scorch- · Post by **scorch-** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:58 pm

hXc wrote:
unpro wrote:i was responding to greetz saying that you guys where trying very hard with the teamwork aspect, and yea.. if your insulting his play because he shit on you guys while "playing gay" then obviously your teamwork wasnt up to par. jaggons post reiterates it perfectly, hes always in mid house. hell i know that and i rarely touch dod. you guys not working correctly as a team is what enables him to do that in matches and get away with it over and over.

so yea, you got beat because they worked better as a team. i dont see why you guys are so upset over that, it happens.
i don't think shooting people in the back is necessarily "shitting on people". it's not like he was just in the right place at the right time to break mid.. we would literally kill 3 of his team mates in mid, and before we would even kill all of those players there would already be another player in mid house baiting all of them, hiding, and not making a sound lol.. and there isn't much you can do when the player finds a new spot to hide every single time.

Here, since the game is dead and I don't play it, I'll throw you a clue.

You don't have to kill anyone to make hiding in the mid-house effective. That map is so small that just staying alive and forcing the other team to run in to the house to kill you gives your teammates enough time to respawn and chuck a grenade into the cap zone. This is a good way to take advantage of teams that don't know how to play the map and try to cap middle.

You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.

Jb_ · Post by **Jb_** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:03 pm

james- wrote:Apparently TPG finals aren't made of dreams.

Anyways, glad to see this website being used for proper flame wars.

Now now that may not be true, but we know DCN finals wasnt made of dreams.

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:14 pm

scorch- wrote:You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.

lol seriously? capping flags isn't important?

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:22 pm

i mean i've only been playing dod for like 6 years now but every time i've played harrington, middle has been the most important aspect/area of the map.

seanality · Post by **seanality** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:33 pm

Scorch is trying to say that you don't have to cap mid as soon as you get there... or as soon as the guys in mid are dead, you can just wait it out and go for the best opportunity.

Harrington isn't all about going for mid first and capping it first to win. Honestly the best strategy is pushing long and pushing mountain and taking those two lanes to hold the allies and axis back at their re-spawns. If you do that you can cap mid without having to worry about someone breaking the cap at all.

The difference between 1st and 2nd places are the little things like Corey did. You don't just peak and take 1 kill only to die right after, you let the two little mice walk into the trap and right when they think they have the cheese you catch them in their own flaws; like not checking your hiding spot or noticing that they didn't kill the other person who plays mid within the last 10 seconds. Just watch any complexity or check-six demo and compare it to Highball. Highball was great and they were the trend setters of their time but later comes x6 and coL who know what it takes to win and sometimes that is hiding in the fucking mid house.

nomis · Post by **nomis** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:37 pm

hXc wrote:
rehpyc wrote:when you have one person covering mid and 3 guys rushing him (you often rushed from the stairs and rope ladder at the same time).. of course he's going to play pretty defensively. if corey had to do that, it's probably because I was choosing to run around and play like a retard for frags, such as quite a few of your teammates do in scrims/matches I've played in/watched. the only time I play these days is when a starter and bencher (dyelife) can't make it, which isn't often, and still it's easy to keep up with your team. it's easy for teams like coL and thunder to continually dominate when most other teams consist mostly of players who run around looking for frags individually rather than work with each other.

hiding in mid house is not playing "defensively".. it's just hiding.. also, other teams have team work, but they don't have the experience in a 6 man roster than thunder does.

EDIT: also another reason thunder should have tried having two teams.. it's obvious every season that they're going to win lol.. (unless austin, joey, and i are on a team together)

Then lets do it up!

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:44 pm

seanality wrote:Scorch is trying to say that you don't have to cap mid as soon as you get there... or as soon as the guys in mid are dead, you can just wait it out and go for the best opportunity.

Harrington isn't all about going for mid first and capping it first to win. Honestly the best strategy is pushing long and pushing mountain and taking those two lanes to hold the allies and axis back at their re-spawns. If you do that you can cap mid without having to worry about someone breaking the cap at all.

The difference between 1st and 2nd places are the little things like Corey did. You don't just peak and take 1 kill only to die right after, you let the two little mice walk into the trap and right when they think they have the cheese you catch them in their own flaws; like not checking your hiding spot or noticing that they didn't kill the other person who plays mid within the last 10 seconds. Just watch any complexity or check-six demo and compare it to Highball. Highball was great and they were the trend setters of their time but later comes x6 and coL who know what it takes to win and sometimes that is hiding in the fucking mid house.

yea i completely understand that play style when it's x6 vs coL.. but it's 2011 and it's thunder vs flawless lol. it's not like we just ran into the mid cap thinking we were invincible.. we literally killed 3 people in mid quickly, jumped on the cap (because normally when you kill 3 people mid it's an opportunity to cap mid), and there would be someone baiting all of them and hiding somewhere in mid house/under ladder/in upper connector to break the cap haha.. it just wasn't fun, but congrats

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:45 pm

nomis wrote:Then lets do it up!

i'd agree to but i guess it isn't that easy haha

joeledmunds · Post by **joeledmunds** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:34 pm

This is the nerdiest argument I've witnessed in a while.

mg_ · Post by **mg_** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:47 pm

hXc wrote:
scorch- wrote:You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.
lol seriously? capping flags isn't important?

He said capping middle, dickcheese.

Good thing there are 2 other flags on that map that let you get points.

hXc · Post by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:53 pm

mg_ wrote:
hXc wrote:
scorch- wrote:You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.
lol seriously? capping flags isn't important?
He said capping middle, dickcheese.

Good thing there are 2 other flags on that map that let you get points.

okay? well when you're down 70 points in the 2nd half with 7 minutes left you need to cap out, correct? correct me if i am wrong, but i don't think you can cap out with out capping middle..

Schmiggs · Post by **Schmiggs** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:00 pm

hXc wrote:i mean i've only been playing dod for like 6 years now but every time i've played harrington, middle has been the most important aspect/area of the map.

I personally think mountain is the most important part. Definitely debatable.

Airnick15 · Post by **Airnick15** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:10 pm

I think that mid is the most important, but that the biggest part of capping and holding mid is ladder control. Doing better than the opposition going mid can be wiped out by constant ladder pushes from the other team's heavies if your mountain team isn't getting the job done. Yes, I am speaking from experience!