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by **mg_** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:39 pm

alex kirk wrote:
mg_ wrote:
alex kirk wrote: You can't even imagine the things I would do with your cell phone number if you even thought about taking Joey from me.

So, cell phone is now slang for anus? :>
Whenever I threaten to abuse someone's <noun>, that <noun> is always slang for anus. You of all people should know that by now, Mitch.

Can it by my anus? It tingles when I say Alex Kirk out loud.

by **kirk** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:22 pm

mg_ wrote:
alex kirk wrote:
hXc wrote: i'd agree to but i guess it isn't that easy haha
You can't even imagine the things I would do with your cell phone number if you even thought about taking Joey from me.

So, cell phone is now slang for anus? :>

Whenever I threaten to abuse someone's <noun>, that <noun> is always slang for anus. You of all people should know that by now, Mitch.

by **element** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:28 pm

only thing i noticed was the disappointing performance by pat =P

by **hXc** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:55 am

stealthlol wrote:If you got shot in the back from upper connector, doesn't that just mean that your long team failed to prevent a push and didn't call it? Or he pushed up onto your side of the map and played it slow and smart.

nah it wasn't a long flank.. it was literally hide and seek in mid lol

by **stealthlol** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:50 am

If you got shot in the back from upper connector, doesn't that just mean that your long team failed to prevent a push and didn't call it? Or he pushed up onto your side of the map and played it slow and smart.

by **Schmiggs** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:37 am

If you get shot in the back, turn around quicker. This is old, everyone shut the fuck up and stop bitching.

by **hXc** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:29 am

no need to argue about that.. but i remember getting shot from upper connector in the back, mid house a couple times, and coming out of allies mtn spawn in the back as well..

by **JaGGoNdd** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:52 am

stealthlol wrote:
hXc wrote:i just said the game could have been more enjoyable had i not gotten shot in the back 40 times.
If he did this for the entire game, shouldn't you have known to check mid house? Seems like if you would just have checked things, you wouldn't have gotten shot in the back.

i actually probably killed taylor 5 times the entire match and i would guesstimate only two or three of those times were from mid house at all, which is the most confusing part of the whole hiding in mid house complaint right now lol

by **stealthlol** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:26 am

hXc wrote:i just said the game could have been more enjoyable had i not gotten shot in the back 40 times.

If he did this for the entire game, shouldn't you have known to check mid house? Seems like if you would just have checked things, you wouldn't have gotten shot in the back.

by **nomis** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:59 am

alex kirk wrote:
hXc wrote:
nomis wrote:Then lets do it up!
i'd agree to but i guess it isn't that easy haha
You can't even imagine the things I would do with your cell phone number if you even thought about taking Joey from me.

:O

by **Schmiggs** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:53 am

Rambizzle wrote:
hXc wrote:actually i do recall a thread about seven being made for playing gay on donner.. but that's donner. i said congrats like twice already lol.

i don't think i've talked shit.. the only shit talking has come from yourself.. i just said the game could have been more enjoyable had i not gotten shot in the back 40 times. i'm sure you've had the same done to you before, and it isn't very fun!
everything is made from dreams bro, except your championship ring...... and corey markos legs

I lol'd

by **mg_** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:30 am

alex kirk wrote:
hXc wrote:
nomis wrote:Then lets do it up!
i'd agree to but i guess it isn't that easy haha
You can't even imagine the things I would do with your cell phone number if you even thought about taking Joey from me.

So, cell phone is now slang for anus? :>

by **kirk** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:27 pm

hXc wrote:
nomis wrote:Then lets do it up!
i'd agree to but i guess it isn't that easy haha

You can't even imagine the things I would do with your cell phone number if you even thought about taking Joey from me.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:09 pm

sorry for complaining about your style of play. it worked very well! great game!

by **Rambizzle** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:00 pm

hXc wrote:actually i do recall a thread about seven being made for playing gay on donner.. but that's donner. i said congrats like twice already lol.

i don't think i've talked shit.. the only shit talking has come from yourself.. i just said the game could have been more enjoyable had i not gotten shot in the back 40 times. i'm sure you've had the same done to you before, and it isn't very fun!

everything is made from dreams bro, except your championship ring...... and corey markos legs

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:49 pm

actually i do recall a thread about seven being made for playing gay on donner.. but that's donner. i said congrats like twice already lol.

i don't think i've talked shit.. the only shit talking has come from yourself.. i just said the game could have been more enjoyable had i not gotten shot in the back 40 times. i'm sure you've had the same done to you before, and it isn't very fun!

by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:16 pm

(playing as axis) If you control long/upper and lower connector making the hell of allies spawn areas it will def be more easier to bait other routes guys attention for getting mid/ladder/mountain which both in my opinion are heavily allies sided on mountain and mid.

After I ready seanality/scorch commentaries I felt like a champ because I always have said to the peers of my previous teams that by flanking in mountain/long first to get mid after is better than just try capping mid like there no other flag in the entire harrington, so hurray!

by **JaGGoNdd** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:11 pm

hXc wrote:
mg_ wrote:
hXc wrote: lol seriously? capping flags isn't important?
He said capping middle, dickcheese.

Good thing there are 2 other flags on that map that let you get points.

okay? well when you're down 70 points in the 2nd half with 7 minutes left you need to cap out, correct? correct me if i am wrong, but i don't think you can cap out with out capping middle..

and when you're up 70 points in the 2nd half with 7 minutes left you know the other team needs to cap out so i would say it's a pretty decent bet that the winning team is going to be playing as defensively on middle as possible. literally the only thought process that goes through a good player's mind in that situation is to try and at least delay the other team capping mid (as dan said) and peeking out against 2-4 enemies while you are one of 2 people alive is not the way to delay anything and in fact is the complete opposite. close matches on harrington are won and lost by little things like sucking it up and playing like a faggot sometimes for the sake of keeping control of the map. if im last alive in mid and i know 2 or 3 guys are coming to try and cap, all im trying to do is kill 1 and engage the others in some sort of fire fight so my team has time to respawn and pepper middle with grenades, which is exactly what continuously happened and is why we were able to win. the arguments you're making throughout the thread are really kind of ridiculous. you've played the game long enough to understand what happened in that match and why it happened. i would think that being a protege of habib like you are that you would have expected most of this, hiding in midhouse when your team is dying on harrington is habib dod 101. and i never personally attacked you, you're just the most defensive human being in the world right now over a dod match that was actually a really well played match overall and was probably fun for everyone to watch, you just aren't happy with the results so you apparently can't see that. you're the only person on your team that I've spoken to about this whole thing that had any problem with how we/i played at all, or even a problem with anything in the match in general. you've played me on harrington at least 3 or 4 times now and ive done the same thing each and every time, not to mention im sure you've watched me play harrington finals matches before, this isn't some new tactic that i invented 2 days ago, it's something that has been done and used successfully a lot for a long time.

and to top it off, you showed an immense amount of poor sportsmanship talking shit in mm1 mid match, disputing out of spite, and then coming on here and continuing the shit talking. you lost the match. did we do any of this shit after we lost to iwa 2 seasons ago? no. we took the loss, licked our wounds, and came back the next season a stronger team. if you chose to do the same thing we could be back here in 5 months talking about the same match going the opposite way, but instead you're dwelling on something that's done and over with and handling it in a horrible way that is probably making the dod community in general just think less and less of you and more highly of your team mates for actually being gracious after losing and not going crazy talking shit, making excuses and trying to dispute out of spite. i would have never ever thought that out of everyone on your team you would act the least mature. gg to all you guys especially the other 5, frank adam andrew jiggy and milo played a great game and i gained a lot of respect for the 5 of you both as players and for the way you handled everything outside of the game after the match. hopefully we'll see you guys again in the finals next season and put on another good match for the community.

by **mg_** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:06 pm

Airnick15 wrote:I think that mid is the most important, but that the biggest part of capping and holding mid is ladder control. Doing better than the opposition going mid can be wiped out by constant ladder pushes from the other team's heavies if your mountain team isn't getting the job done. Yes, I am speaking from experience!

Controlling how mid is played is the most important. You cap it when you control how it is played. There are reasons why teams can spam-cap the map, and it has very little to do with immediately flooding into middle and sitting there waiting to get picked off by the opposing team or dying to easy grenade tosses. Jaggon playing 1 v 2 and just constantly pummelling a team in mid means he controls it without having to cap it. It means another portion of the map is overloaded with his team and they're controlling the game.

The cap of mid will come and the other team will be struggling to get out of spawn.

by **Airnick15** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:10 pm

I think that mid is the most important, but that the biggest part of capping and holding mid is ladder control. Doing better than the opposition going mid can be wiped out by constant ladder pushes from the other team's heavies if your mountain team isn't getting the job done. Yes, I am speaking from experience!

by **Schmiggs** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:00 pm

hXc wrote:i mean i've only been playing dod for like 6 years now but every time i've played harrington, middle has been the most important aspect/area of the map.

I personally think mountain is the most important part. Definitely debatable.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:53 pm

mg_ wrote:
hXc wrote:
scorch- wrote:You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.
lol seriously? capping flags isn't important?
He said capping middle, dickcheese.

Good thing there are 2 other flags on that map that let you get points.

okay? well when you're down 70 points in the 2nd half with 7 minutes left you need to cap out, correct? correct me if i am wrong, but i don't think you can cap out with out capping middle..

by **mg_** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:47 pm

hXc wrote:
scorch- wrote:You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.
lol seriously? capping flags isn't important?

He said capping middle, dickcheese.

Good thing there are 2 other flags on that map that let you get points.

by **joeledmunds** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:34 pm

This is the nerdiest argument I've witnessed in a while.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:45 pm

nomis wrote:Then lets do it up!

i'd agree to but i guess it isn't that easy haha

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:44 pm

seanality wrote:Scorch is trying to say that you don't have to cap mid as soon as you get there... or as soon as the guys in mid are dead, you can just wait it out and go for the best opportunity.

Harrington isn't all about going for mid first and capping it first to win. Honestly the best strategy is pushing long and pushing mountain and taking those two lanes to hold the allies and axis back at their re-spawns. If you do that you can cap mid without having to worry about someone breaking the cap at all.

The difference between 1st and 2nd places are the little things like Corey did. You don't just peak and take 1 kill only to die right after, you let the two little mice walk into the trap and right when they think they have the cheese you catch them in their own flaws; like not checking your hiding spot or noticing that they didn't kill the other person who plays mid within the last 10 seconds. Just watch any complexity or check-six demo and compare it to Highball. Highball was great and they were the trend setters of their time but later comes x6 and coL who know what it takes to win and sometimes that is hiding in the fucking mid house.

yea i completely understand that play style when it's x6 vs coL.. but it's 2011 and it's thunder vs flawless lol. it's not like we just ran into the mid cap thinking we were invincible.. we literally killed 3 people in mid quickly, jumped on the cap (because normally when you kill 3 people mid it's an opportunity to cap mid), and there would be someone baiting all of them and hiding somewhere in mid house/under ladder/in upper connector to break the cap haha.. it just wasn't fun, but congrats

by **nomis** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:37 pm

hXc wrote:
rehpyc wrote:when you have one person covering mid and 3 guys rushing him (you often rushed from the stairs and rope ladder at the same time).. of course he's going to play pretty defensively. if corey had to do that, it's probably because I was choosing to run around and play like a retard for frags, such as quite a few of your teammates do in scrims/matches I've played in/watched. the only time I play these days is when a starter and bencher (dyelife) can't make it, which isn't often, and still it's easy to keep up with your team. it's easy for teams like coL and thunder to continually dominate when most other teams consist mostly of players who run around looking for frags individually rather than work with each other.

hiding in mid house is not playing "defensively".. it's just hiding.. also, other teams have team work, but they don't have the experience in a 6 man roster than thunder does.

EDIT: also another reason thunder should have tried having two teams.. it's obvious every season that they're going to win lol.. (unless austin, joey, and i are on a team together)

Then lets do it up!

by **seanality** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:33 pm

Scorch is trying to say that you don't have to cap mid as soon as you get there... or as soon as the guys in mid are dead, you can just wait it out and go for the best opportunity.

Harrington isn't all about going for mid first and capping it first to win. Honestly the best strategy is pushing long and pushing mountain and taking those two lanes to hold the allies and axis back at their re-spawns. If you do that you can cap mid without having to worry about someone breaking the cap at all.

The difference between 1st and 2nd places are the little things like Corey did. You don't just peak and take 1 kill only to die right after, you let the two little mice walk into the trap and right when they think they have the cheese you catch them in their own flaws; like not checking your hiding spot or noticing that they didn't kill the other person who plays mid within the last 10 seconds. Just watch any complexity or check-six demo and compare it to Highball. Highball was great and they were the trend setters of their time but later comes x6 and coL who know what it takes to win and sometimes that is hiding in the fucking mid house.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:22 pm

i mean i've only been playing dod for like 6 years now but every time i've played harrington, middle has been the most important aspect/area of the map.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:14 pm

scorch- wrote:You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.

lol seriously? capping flags isn't important?

by **Jb_** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:03 pm

james- wrote:Apparently TPG finals aren't made of dreams.

Anyways, glad to see this website being used for proper flame wars.

Now now that may not be true, but we know DCN finals wasnt made of dreams.

by **scorch-** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:58 pm

hXc wrote:
unpro wrote:i was responding to greetz saying that you guys where trying very hard with the teamwork aspect, and yea.. if your insulting his play because he shit on you guys while "playing gay" then obviously your teamwork wasnt up to par. jaggons post reiterates it perfectly, hes always in mid house. hell i know that and i rarely touch dod. you guys not working correctly as a team is what enables him to do that in matches and get away with it over and over.

so yea, you got beat because they worked better as a team. i dont see why you guys are so upset over that, it happens.
i don't think shooting people in the back is necessarily "shitting on people". it's not like he was just in the right place at the right time to break mid.. we would literally kill 3 of his team mates in mid, and before we would even kill all of those players there would already be another player in mid house baiting all of them, hiding, and not making a sound lol.. and there isn't much you can do when the player finds a new spot to hide every single time.

Here, since the game is dead and I don't play it, I'll throw you a clue.

You don't have to kill anyone to make hiding in the mid-house effective. That map is so small that just staying alive and forcing the other team to run in to the house to kill you gives your teammates enough time to respawn and chuck a grenade into the cap zone. This is a good way to take advantage of teams that don't know how to play the map and try to cap middle.

You're playing the map wrong if capping middle is an important part of your strategy.

by **CharlieGiteau** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:26 am

Jee wrote:code jiggy young red

OUSTED BY A BRO!!! BURRRRRRRRRRRNNNNN!!!

[youtube]GGKGDmc1pUI[/youtube]

by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:26 am

CharlieGiteau wrote:Best part of this thread is that EVERYONE ignored the troll's post, lolololol. Fail aliased troll is fail!

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:24 am

unpro wrote:i was responding to greetz saying that you guys where trying very hard with the teamwork aspect, and yea.. if your insulting his play because he shit on you guys while "playing gay" then obviously your teamwork wasnt up to par. jaggons post reiterates it perfectly, hes always in mid house. hell i know that and i rarely touch dod. you guys not working correctly as a team is what enables him to do that in matches and get away with it over and over.

so yea, you got beat because they worked better as a team. i dont see why you guys are so upset over that, it happens.

i don't think shooting people in the back is necessarily "shitting on people". it's not like he was just in the right place at the right time to break mid.. we would literally kill 3 of his team mates in mid, and before we would even kill all of those players there would already be another player in mid house baiting all of them, hiding, and not making a sound lol.. and there isn't much you can do when the player finds a new spot to hide every single time.

by **Jee** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:57 am

code jiggy young red

by **james-** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:49 am

Apparently TPG finals aren't made of dreams.

Anyways, glad to see this website being used for proper flame wars.

by **sevEN** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:33 am

CharlieGiteau wrote:Best part of this thread is that EVERYONE ignored the troll's post, lolololol. Fail aliased troll is fail!

lol i was thinking the same thing brah.

by **cassinoroyale** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:02 am

quite entertaining

by **blech** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:21 am

Schmiggs wrote:Playing as mid-parter with Corey on harrytown with moi in the draft was easily the best mid-parter I have had since Tommy "Showtime" Murray's random ass with nwP. He plays very smart and communicates well.

I played mid with Corey once (Socal).. He just stood on my head and tried to get noscopes..

by **CharlieGiteau** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:33 am

Best part of this thread is that EVERYONE ignored the troll's post, lolololol. Fail aliased troll is fail!

by **Schmiggs** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:21 am

Playing as mid-parter with Corey on harrytown with moi in the draft was easily the best mid-parter I have had since Tommy "Showtime" Murray's random ass with nwP. He plays very smart and communicates well.

by **milo** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:06 am

[youtube]38_MwcGDNhQ[/youtube]

by **unpro** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:59 am

hXc wrote:
unpro wrote:large difference between trying to play as a team, and actually playing as a team. you need role players to play as a team successfully. someone needs to be the bitch and play the gay spots and the hard to hold areas well(even if that means proning and playing really gay). thunder knows this, and has that willingness to do it that most(all) teams these days just dont have.

playing a game for that long at higher levels kinda leads naturally to that play style as well. its easy to figure it out when everyone knows how the other plays. its the same with every comp game played in team play, you always need that 1 person willing to sacrifice there entire score to get the rest of the team kills and points and hold the hard to handle spots with enough skill to mean you win after they die even without killing anyone.
did you even watch the match? i'm not sure why you're criticizing our teamwork if you didn't even see how the match was played lol.

i was responding to greetz saying that you guys where trying very hard with the teamwork aspect, and yea.. if your insulting his play because he shit on you guys while "playing gay" then obviously your teamwork wasnt up to par. jaggons post reiterates it perfectly, hes always in mid house. hell i know that and i rarely touch dod. you guys not working correctly as a team is what enables him to do that in matches and get away with it over and over.

so yea, you got beat because they worked better as a team. i dont see why you guys are so upset over that, it happens.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:32 am

no need to make it personal lol.. congrats. i guess my 3 weeks of practice wasn't enough

by **JaGGoNdd** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:26 am

i think this is all really hilarious. it was a good match and suddenly because taylor couldn't win after practicing for 3 weeks it was the end of the world. youve played me on harrington enough times and seen me play on harrington enough times to know i will almost always go into mid house on allies and hide if our team starts dying. people in 12man even check it, even idiots like tilljim check it, and you guys didnt twice and it cost you two mid caps. learn from it. first half i was raping you. i saved us from being capped on by "hiding and playing gay" and your team even knew where i was and i STILL hit both shots on both guys looking at me. thats called skill. you can hide all you want but when it comes down to the clutch shot in those situations its about not missing it.

by **code_red** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:29 am

unpro WHO DO U THINK U ARE BRO? u must be more brain damaged than i thought after i dropped that 90 on u, ur done SO done. remember at socal u followed everyone around and silently ball rided them when they were alone so nobody noticed? even when u smelled and nobody liked u? just u wait when u land on Montreal and pay me 20 million and then you'll be crying and wishing u were DONE.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:20 am

unpro wrote:large difference between trying to play as a team, and actually playing as a team. you need role players to play as a team successfully. someone needs to be the bitch and play the gay spots and the hard to hold areas well(even if that means proning and playing really gay). thunder knows this, and has that willingness to do it that most(all) teams these days just dont have.

playing a game for that long at higher levels kinda leads naturally to that play style as well. its easy to figure it out when everyone knows how the other plays. its the same with every comp game played in team play, you always need that 1 person willing to sacrifice there entire score to get the rest of the team kills and points and hold the hard to handle spots with enough skill to mean you win after they die even without killing anyone.

did you even watch the match? i'm not sure why you're criticizing our teamwork if you didn't even see how the match was played lol.

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:15 am

rehpyc wrote:when you have one person covering mid and 3 guys rushing him (you often rushed from the stairs and rope ladder at the same time).. of course he's going to play pretty defensively. if corey had to do that, it's probably because I was choosing to run around and play like a retard for frags, such as quite a few of your teammates do in scrims/matches I've played in/watched. the only time I play these days is when a starter and bencher (dyelife) can't make it, which isn't often, and still it's easy to keep up with your team. it's easy for teams like coL and thunder to continually dominate when most other teams consist mostly of players who run around looking for frags individually rather than work with each other.

hiding in mid house is not playing "defensively".. it's just hiding.. also, other teams have team work, but they don't have the experience in a 6 man roster than thunder does.

EDIT: also another reason thunder should have tried having two teams.. it's obvious every season that they're going to win lol.. (unless austin, joey, and i are on a team together)

by **hXc** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:13 am

unpro wrote:large difference between trying to play as a team, and actually playing as a team. you need role players to play as a team successfully. someone needs to be the bitch and play the gay spots and the hard to hold areas well(even if that means proning and playing really gay). thunder knows this, and has that willingness to do it that most(all) teams these days just dont have.

playing a game for that long at higher levels kinda leads naturally to that play style as well. its easy to figure it out when everyone knows how the other plays. its the same with every comp game played in team play, you always need that 1 person willing to sacrifice there entire score to get the rest of the team kills and points and hold the hard to handle spots with enough skill to mean you win after they die even without killing anyone.

well that settles it.. glad to hear you're the bitch for thunder corey hahahah

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